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Old 05-04-2013, 11:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ezio_Auditore View Post
lol dones't matter who you are pretend to be, everyone even monkey could easily tell who are you based on your insanity cherry picking photo.
i am sen monorom -on asia finest i am chad warden i am a bunong tribe cambodian dumbarse i know exactly who you are

 
Old 05-05-2013, 12:49 AM
 
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Originally Posted by sen monorom View Post
yes i think i definetly know who this person ezio auditore is.But maybe I dont because all Thai trolls try to make distinctions against other Southeast Asians and try to brainwash everyone that they are some kind of pure "thai" race. First the whole premise is wrong because "THAI" is a recent government creation to get everyone into the same nationalist batsh1t mood. This guy is probably a thai chinese that I know by other names, thai chinese always try to blend themselves in with Thailand to feel at home :P lol
By your own third math bs you are still sinking your own ship. Sure maybe northern thai are 3/3 tai whatever that means, but what percent of population of Thailand are northern thai? So by your very logic you are cherry picking I dont think you understand that... Cherry picking one portion of the Thailand population to say that Thailand is more "northeast" than Vietnamese )
Your math still doesn't make sense anyway. Van Lang people hypothetically might be a mon khmer. They were invaded by an upland Tai peoples in 250BC. So automatically they are 1/2 tai 1/2 mon khmer. Obviously since Van Lang was defeated so easily its population was probably smaller than the Au Viets. so already this first hypothetical mxing is 2/3 tai 1/3 mon khmer. Then add 1000 years of Chinese domination.. how does that only make Northern Vietnamese 2/3 non mon khmer? if a people dominate an area for 1000 years you think 0 mixing went on ? LOL keep trolling dog The tai tribes that came down to modern Thailand came about 800 years ago. They have had the most recent mixing of mon khmer blood and it flatly shows in a large portion of the Thailand population.

Comparison
You have to reach and try to make vietnamese looking like mon khmers when I can go to central thailand bangkok pattaya and find dark skin mon khmer looking people easily ) who is doing the cherry picking?

truong thi may. a khmer krom model in vietnam. Ok so do vietnamese models look like her? Wow I couldnt tell if she was Vietnamese or Khmer )

http://anh.eva.vn/upload/4-2011/imag...ngsao-eva1.jpg

a khmer krom in usa of course i coudlnt tell if she was vietnamese or not )
http://khmerkrom.net/files/images/61...-francisco.jpg

I am a khmer ethnic tribe member all my khmer central friends even lao friends can tell vietnamese from lao thai or us khmer. Its only you who keeps trying to force everyone to think that Vietnamese are more mon khmer than "THAI". haha

Is this cherry picked? Do you know who this man is ? He is of Tay heritage and dark skin so? Is he magically now a mon khmer) lol you think people with dark skin are mon khmer but any ethnic around the world can have dark skin. mon khmer facial features can always be seen even a light skin mon khmer looks different than a vietnamese....
http://www.danchimviet.info/wp-conte...ngDucManh2.jpg

kinh model on right she relly looks mon khmer ) lols
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1_DSCF5495.jpg
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...49_NewFile.jpg
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1469285_c4.jpg

great comparison kinh vs Bahnar girl mon khmer ethnics related to khmer
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...s1464730_6.jpg kinh
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...s1464734_7.jpg bana

coho another mon khmer group and khmer girl
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...7_DSCF5393.jpg
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...3_DSCF5420.jpg

nguoi ma another mon khmer ethnic and muong (who are the closest relatives to the kinh)
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...9_DSCF5311.jpg nguoi ma
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1_DSCF5322.jpg muong

lol how is this cherry picking )
more "cherry picking" girl in saigon
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8316/8...fc948af4_z.jpg

ah yes this man is definetly mon khmer as well )
http://www.na.gov.vn/htx/english/c14...ensinhhung.jpg

hanoi girl
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8197/8...3fc9f659_z.jpg
I don't care that you know me or you don't, it doesn't matter about the fact that we are arguing in this topic.

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By your own third math bs you are still sinking your own ship. Sure maybe northern thai are 3/3 tai whatever that means, but what percent of population of Thailand are northern thai? So by your very logic you are cherry picking I dont think you understand that... Cherry picking one portion of the Thailand population to say that Thailand is more "northeast" than Vietnamese )
I can also ask you the same question the how many percent of Vietnamese are really in the northern and how many are really in center and southern??

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Your math still doesn't make sense anyway. Van Lang people hypothetically might be a mon khmer. They were invaded by an upland Tai peoples in 250BC. So automatically they are 1/2 tai 1/2 mon khmer. Obviously since Van Lang was defeated so easily its population was probably smaller than the Au Viets. so already this first hypothetical mxing is 2/3 tai 1/3 mon khmer.
LOL ! Think about it if the Au Viet (Tai) population was more than the Lac Viet (Mon-Khmer) then why the Vietnamese now end up to be Mon-Khmer speaker? If the Au Viet population was more + was also the ruler of Lac Viet, it definitely means that the Au Viet would force Lac Viet to speak Tai langauge for sure.

Now the question is why the Vietnamese aren't speak Tai lol? Definitely because the Au Viet population on that time was quite lesser than the Lac Viet population, since the majority were Mon-Khmer people(Lac Viet), while the Au Viet was minority and definitely was some kind of ruler class. That is why Vietnamese now end up to be Mon-Khmer speaker, because the majority were Mon-Khmer people.

So the first hypothetical mixing was definitely 1/3 Au Viet (Tai), 2/3 Lac Viet (mon-Khmer).

Also in the war you can't say that the one that have more are going to alway win, there are many factors that could have effect on the result of the war such as battle plan,weather,equipment,training.

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Then add 1000 years of Chinese domination.. how does that only make Northern Vietnamese 2/3 non mon khmer? if a people dominate an area for 1000 years you think 0 mixing went on ?
You are the one that is trolling. Also have you ever read what I said?

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Now the fact is the Chinese that invade and rule Vietnam was S.Chinese and generally no different from the Tai people in looks and DNA. So that counts them to be on the same level as the Tai.
So now, the first time of hypothetical mixing was 1/3 Au Viet and 2/3 Lac Viet. So the second time was the result of the first time (1/3 Au Viet and 2/3 Lac Viet) + S.Chinese (counts to be same level as Tai).

So the result basically came out to be 2/6 Mon-Khmer, 4/6 Tai (S.Chinese counts as the same level as Tai), which is simplified as 1/3 Mon-Khmer + 2/3 Tai (S.Chinese counts as the same level as Tai).

So the northern Vietnameses are 1/3 Mon-Khmer+2/3 Tai (S.Chinese counts as the same level as Tai), but northern Thais are still 3/3 Tai.

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The tai tribes that came down to modern Thailand came about 800 years ago. They have had the most recent mixing of mon khmer blood and it flatly shows in a large portion of the Thailand population.
What a troll LOL.

I don't know if you lost track of time or something but you are telling the one that have been living along side the Khmer for over 2200 years are less mix with the Khmer than the one the have been around Khmer for only 700-800 years.

How does your brain functional anyway, is it still working fine?

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You have to reach and try to make vietnamese looking like mon khmers when I can go to central thailand bangkok pattaya and find dark skin mon khmer looking people easily ) who is doing the cherry picking?
No one have to any reach to see Mon-khmer looking in Vietnam since they are walking around everywhere on the streets since Hanoi to Saigon LOL .

Hanoi




Saigon



100,000 of people, all look of them look Mon-Khmer. Cherry picking right LOL?

Also if you are going to talk about center Thailand, there are obviously a lot a lot a lot lesser of Mon-Khmer looking people when compare with center of Vietnam like Danang LOL.

Face to face comparison.

Center Vietnamese


Center Thai


Even in the Northern area. Vietnamese those often walking around street are shown more of Mon-Khmer looking + darker.

Northern Vietnamese


Northern Thai


lol, don't tell me that all of 10,000 of people in the video are all cherry picked. If you do I will laugh to death LOL !

 
Old 05-05-2013, 12:54 AM
 
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Is this cherry picked? Do you know who this man is ? He is of Tay heritage and dark skin so? Is he magically now a mon khmer) lol you think people with dark skin are mon khmer but any ethnic around the world can have dark skin. mon khmer facial features can always be seen even a light skin mon khmer looks different than a vietnamese....
http://www.danchimviet.info/wp-conte...ngDucManh2.jpg

kinh model on right she relly looks mon khmer ) lols
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1_DSCF5495.jpg
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...49_NewFile.jpg
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1469285_c4.jpg

great comparison kinh vs Bahnar girl mon khmer ethnics related to khmer
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...s1464730_6.jpg kinh
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...s1464734_7.jpg bana

coho another mon khmer group and khmer girl
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...7_DSCF5393.jpg
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...3_DSCF5420.jpg

nguoi ma another mon khmer ethnic and muong (who are the closest relatives to the kinh)
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...9_DSCF5311.jpg nguoi ma
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1_DSCF5322.jpg muong

lol how is this cherry picking )
more "cherry picking" girl in saigon
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8316/8...fc948af4_z.jpg

ah yes this man is definetly mon khmer as well )
http://www.na.gov.vn/htx/english/c14...ensinhhung.jpg

hanoi girl
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8197/8...3fc9f659_z.jpg
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!

Look at both of us..........

All comparison I posted are video where 1000 of people walking around randomly on the streets.

All comparison you posted are nothing but photo of a single individual. (Which is why you are obviously one of Ejay's alternate account lol because Ejay also has the same characteristic as you do)

Who is more Cherry pick???

I bet 99.9 of people who see comparison of both of us will say that my comparison are a lot more realistic to represent how the majority of the people look like.
 
Old 05-05-2013, 01:11 AM
 
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To sum up this topic I would say in general Vietnamese look like S.Chinese and Thai look like Okinawan Japanese.

reasons as I described in here

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Originally Posted by Great_Jack View Post
In my opinion.

Skin tone = Thai are generally lighter than Vietnamese.

Face = I would say that Vietnamese and Thai are generally have different concept of face.
Vietnamese, to me they have S.Chinese face (wide face,wide nose,clear jaw bone,long eye shape).
Thai, to me they have Okinawan Japanese face (longer face,pointy longer nose,less obvious jaw bone,almond eye shape).
So I think your people should get over this topic now lol.
 
Old 05-05-2013, 02:46 AM
 
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To sum up this topic I would say in general Vietnamese look like S.Chinese and Thai look like Okinawan Japanese.

reasons as I described in here



So I think your people should get over this topic now lol.
Southern Chinese is not a proper term though. People in south China are VERY diverse, even if we only talk about Han Chinese.

In the southwest, Han Chinese are mixed with Tibeto-Burman peoples such as Tibetan, Qiang, Yi... In the deep south (e.g. Guangdong, Guangxi), they are mixed with KamTai peoples. In other parts of South China, they are mixed with Miao(Hmong)-Yao peoples.

S Chinese are extremely diverse in looking!
 
Old 05-05-2013, 08:53 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Ezio_Auditore View Post
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!

Look at both of us..........

All comparison I posted are video where 1000 of people walking around randomly on the streets.

All comparison you posted are nothing but photo of a single individual. (Which is why you are obviously one of Ejay's alternate account lol because Ejay also has the same characteristic as you do)

Who is more Cherry pick???

I bet 99.9 of people who see comparison of both of us will say that my comparison are a lot more realistic to represent how the majority of the people look like.

lol its not my fault if your dumb@ss doesnt look at real life examples. I picked those women because it is a miss ethnic vietnam competition. So it has all the Vietnam ethnics side by side. you are too stupid to open links thats not my problem.

I like how a chinese thai is telling me a mon khmer ethnic how people with mon khmer blood look lol you obviously never been to a mon khmer village in your life and you probably have never even been to phnom penh so you just dream about a hanoi street and think people are mk.

Everything is cherry picking to you. You lazily just post sh1tty youtube videos of people wearing motos helmets driving around. How can we see anything?

Please give me the correct population of these pure Tai northern Thailand people. If we dont know it then whatever you keep blabbing on about pure Tai people is useless. Thailand has a population of 66 million, if you are talking just about Lanna Thai people that is 6 million. Saying that Thailand is represented only by these 6 million is definetly without a doubt cherry picking.
-According to wiki Northern Thai is 18.8% of 66 million if you do the math (which I know you cant) it is only 12.54 million are of this "pure" blood.

Anyway like I said even if these "pure mon khmer" lan vang ancestors of the vietnamese who you keep stressing lived there for 4000 years did get mixed it doesnt matter how long they lived there. 1000 years of chinese mixing and initial mixing from the au viet tai peoples that mon khmer blood line is all but gone. Im willing to say its only about 5 to 15% evident at the most. Compare to Thailand the Tai that just came around 800 years ago have been mixed more recently than Vietnamese. Vietnamese facial features have already been changed to east asian and you cant just change it back from 2000 years.

You have never even been to laos either because Lao people even know who is Vietnamese and who isnt just by the face. Obviously Vietnamese face looks more east asian than even Tai peoples.


Even in Cambodia we can tell who are mixed blooded people. Those with more chinese or tai look different than us. We dont make it a big deal like you who only dreams of absract racial purity like some kind of nazi.

hey look everyone im ezio autidore let me post a video that doesnt focus on anyones face but just a crowd of moto ) and then say people look like this or that. Ezio if i find you 1000 pictures of vietnamese riding motos is it the same as your lame video?

Two Minutes on a Phnom Penh Street - YouTube phnom penh street where most are mon khmer

Back to real life (unlike ezio)
Ladies of Vietnam3 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
This lady lives in a village along the Mekong River and I asked the guide to tell her that she was very beautiful but she didn't think she was beautiful at all as the Vietnamese like light skinned people better than dark skin people. I thought she looked really sad.
Saigon Riders | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
ah yes the infamous moto riding clip ezio gives us ^

Saigon Riders | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
now remember these are from saigon the supposed darkest of vietnamese )

Happy Tourists Saigon | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
ah wow ezio i cherry picked this one a dark skin vietnamese ciclo driver he must be mon khmer )

A Vietnamese Photo Shoot | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon
A Family That Rides Together | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon moto riders something ezio loves

Saigon | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon notice the man on far right has dark skin but still looks like a vietnamese

Saigon Traffic, Ho Chi Minh City | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon traffic
Saigon-traffic-bikes-HCM-City-Vietnam (16) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
gasp a crowd in phnom penh because of dark skin ) lol nope still saigon notice the face is still east asian just a tan with it .

Saigon-traffic-bikes-HCM-City-Vietnam (30) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
a mon khmer man driving two vietnamese ) haha doubt it again just because his tan doesnt make his ethnicity different
Saigon traffic. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Afternoon traffic at Tan Binh district | Flickr - Photo Sharing!


these pics are side by side on this site Miss ethnic 2007, Viet ethnic and rural girl
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1467774_b5.jpg tay ethnic person
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1467776_b4.jpg khmer

kinh
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1464004_14.jpg

heres a song about the pako people sung by a vietnamese in a traditional mon khmer outfit

C Gi PaKo - Trung H lol and you cant tell the difference between vietnamese and mon khmer )

Remember what I said ezio you can tell if someone is partly of khmer blood just by the facial feautures. Its not all about skin color, but I dont blame you since Siam is borderline insane when it comes to insecurity about skin tone.
 
Old 05-05-2013, 07:31 PM
 
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lol its not my fault if your dumb@ss doesnt look at real life examples. I picked those women because it is a miss ethnic vietnam competition. So it has all the Vietnam ethnics side by side. you are too stupid to open links thats not my problem.

I like how a chinese thai is telling me a mon khmer ethnic how people with mon khmer blood look lol you obviously never been to a mon khmer village in your life and you probably have never even been to phnom penh so you just dream about a hanoi street and think people are mk.

Everything is cherry picking to you. You lazily just post sh1tty youtube videos of people wearing motos helmets driving around. How can we see anything?

Please give me the correct population of these pure Tai northern Thailand people. If we dont know it then whatever you keep blabbing on about pure Tai people is useless. Thailand has a population of 66 million, if you are talking just about Lanna Thai people that is 6 million. Saying that Thailand is represented only by these 6 million is definetly without a doubt cherry picking.
-According to wiki Northern Thai is 18.8% of 66 million if you do the math (which I know you cant) it is only 12.54 million are of this "pure" blood.

Anyway like I said even if these "pure mon khmer" lan vang ancestors of the vietnamese who you keep stressing lived there for 4000 years did get mixed it doesnt matter how long they lived there. 1000 years of chinese mixing and initial mixing from the au viet tai peoples that mon khmer blood line is all but gone. Im willing to say its only about 5 to 15% evident at the most. Compare to Thailand the Tai that just came around 800 years ago have been mixed more recently than Vietnamese. Vietnamese facial features have already been changed to east asian and you cant just change it back from 2000 years.

You have never even been to laos either because Lao people even know who is Vietnamese and who isnt just by the face. Obviously Vietnamese face looks more east asian than even Tai peoples.


Even in Cambodia we can tell who are mixed blooded people. Those with more chinese or tai look different than us. We dont make it a big deal like you who only dreams of absract racial purity like some kind of nazi.

hey look everyone im ezio autidore let me post a video that doesnt focus on anyones face but just a crowd of moto ) and then say people look like this or that. Ezio if i find you 1000 pictures of vietnamese riding motos is it the same as your lame video?

Two Minutes on a Phnom Penh Street - YouTube phnom penh street where most are mon khmer

Back to real life (unlike ezio)
Ladies of Vietnam3 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
This lady lives in a village along the Mekong River and I asked the guide to tell her that she was very beautiful but she didn't think she was beautiful at all as the Vietnamese like light skinned people better than dark skin people. I thought she looked really sad.
Saigon Riders | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
ah yes the infamous moto riding clip ezio gives us ^

Saigon Riders | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
now remember these are from saigon the supposed darkest of vietnamese )

Happy Tourists Saigon | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
ah wow ezio i cherry picked this one a dark skin vietnamese ciclo driver he must be mon khmer )

A Vietnamese Photo Shoot | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon
A Family That Rides Together | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon moto riders something ezio loves

Saigon | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon notice the man on far right has dark skin but still looks like a vietnamese

Saigon Traffic, Ho Chi Minh City | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon traffic
Saigon-traffic-bikes-HCM-City-Vietnam (16) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
gasp a crowd in phnom penh because of dark skin ) lol nope still saigon notice the face is still east asian just a tan with it .

Saigon-traffic-bikes-HCM-City-Vietnam (30) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
a mon khmer man driving two vietnamese ) haha doubt it again just because his tan doesnt make his ethnicity different
Saigon traffic. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Afternoon traffic at Tan Binh district | Flickr - Photo Sharing!


these pics are side by side on this site Miss ethnic 2007, Viet ethnic and rural girl
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1467774_b5.jpg tay ethnic person
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1467776_b4.jpg khmer

kinh
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1464004_14.jpg

heres a song about the pako people sung by a vietnamese in a traditional mon khmer outfit

C Gi PaKo - Trung H lol and you cant tell the difference between vietnamese and mon khmer )

Remember what I said ezio you can tell if someone is partly of khmer blood just by the facial feautures. Its not all about skin color, but I dont blame you since Siam is borderline insane when it comes to insecurity about skin tone.

LOL

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Originally Posted by sen monorom View Post
lol its not my fault if your dumb@ss doesnt look at real life examples. I picked those women because it is a miss ethnic vietnam competition. So it has all the Vietnam ethnics side by side. you are too stupid to open links thats not my problem.
Are Vietnameses those generally walking around streets look llike or have same skin tone as those miss Vietnam that you post ? No, they are darker and look more of Mon-Khmer (I am talking about in the northern like Hanoi).

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I like how a chinese thai is telling me a mon khmer ethnic how people with mon khmer blood look lol you obviously never been to a mon khmer village in your life and you probably have never even been to phnom penh so you just dream about a hanoi street and think people are mk.
LOL ! I am not even a Chinese-Thai. Also no ! I am not even a Thai. But yes ! I am a Tai/Dai ( pure Tai/Dai). I am Lao by nationality but Tai/Dai by ethnic. I am now living in Thailand. As I know both Lao and Thailand are dominated by the Tai/Dai. So basically doesn't matter a Tai from Laos or a Tai from Thailand both are still all the same. That means I also have right to speak in their name.

Also yes ! I know how your Mon-Khmer people look like, I have seen many of them around the border.

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Everything is cherry picking to you. You lazily just post sh1tty youtube videos of people wearing motos helmets driving around. How can we see anything?
They wear helmets but do they cover their face ? No, they don't (90% didn't). We can still clearly see their face and skin tone.

Vietnamese in Hanoi


compare to the Thai in Chiang-Mai


We can still simplely see their face and their skin tone clearly.

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Please give me the correct population of these pure Tai northern Thailand people. If we dont know it then whatever you keep blabbing on about pure Tai people is useless. Thailand has a population of 66 million, if you are talking just about Lanna Thai people that is 6 million. Saying that Thailand is represented only by these 6 million is definetly without a doubt cherry picking.
-According to wiki Northern Thai is 18.8% of 66 million if you do the math (which I know you cant) it is only 12.54 million are of this "pure" blood.
Ok, Thailand has 5 ethnic areas total.


North = pure ethnic Tai.
Northern Issan = Mostly ethnic Tai.
Southern Issan = Mostly ethnic Khmer. (light green in the map)
Center = Mostly Chinese
South = Mostly Malay. (purple in the map)

The population are made up as follow.....

About 75% of the population of Thailand is ethnically Tai/Dai, 14% is ethnically Han-Chinese with estimated over 50-55% of Thai population are partly Han-Chinese ,7% of Khmer and 3% is ethnically Malay the rest belong to minority groups including Mons, Khmers and various hill tribes.

Source: Thai people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Population in each area are as follow..

Northern = 18.8%
Issan = 34.2% (Break into 2 parts which is Northern Issan and Southern Issan)
Center = 33.7
Southern = 13.3%

Now let do some math.

1.)12.54 millions (18.8%) of Northern Thai are pure blood Tai with East Asian looking.

2.) Now Issan, Issan has 2 part which made up by different people. Northern Issan are made up mostly by the Tai with the same concept of look as the Northern Thai. Southern Issan are made up by Khmer which is look like Khmer itself.

Total population of Issan has 34 % of the country. The ethnic Khmer in Southern Issan are made up for 7% (I will also save 5% for some people who are mixed of Tai/Dai and Khmer) . So that means Northern Issan has 22% who are pure Tai. So 22% of 66 millions = 14.52 millions who are pure Tai with East Asian looking in Northern Issan.

3.) Center is 85% dominated by Chinese ethnic or partly Chinese which is people around there mostly definitely look Northeast Asian (Center has 33.7% of population of 66 millions,so 85% of 33.7% = 18.9 millions of people)

4.) Southern has 13% of population of the country I will count all of them to be Malay with Southeast Asian looking, so these people made up for 8.58 millions of the country.

So now when we adding up all the East Asia looking population of Thailand (people from Northern,Northern Issan,Center) together Thailand will have 45.96 millions out of 66 millions of population who look East Asian. So 2/3 of the country population having East Asian look.

While 1/3 of country (20.4 millions) having Southeast Asian look (people from Southern,Southern Issan)

Ok, now how about Vietnam? how many population are made up in each area, how many in northern,center,southern? Also show me your source too. Also show me the work on you math too. (I hope you know how to do LOL !)

By the way, from what I have seen northern Vietnamese are the most East Asian look than other part of Vietnam (LOL but still, when compare to the Thais in the Northern Thailand they are still less East Asian and look more Mon-Khmer+they are darker). Don't ever talk about southern Vietnamese, majority look Mon-Khmer/Cham. Center seem to be 50/50 chance to look either Mon-Khmer/Cham or East Asian.


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Old 05-05-2013, 08:31 PM
 
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lol its not my fault if your dumb@ss doesnt look at real life examples. I picked those women because it is a miss ethnic vietnam competition. So it has all the Vietnam ethnics side by side. you are too stupid to open links thats not my problem.

I like how a chinese thai is telling me a mon khmer ethnic how people with mon khmer blood look lol you obviously never been to a mon khmer village in your life and you probably have never even been to phnom penh so you just dream about a hanoi street and think people are mk.

Everything is cherry picking to you. You lazily just post sh1tty youtube videos of people wearing motos helmets driving around. How can we see anything?

Please give me the correct population of these pure Tai northern Thailand people. If we dont know it then whatever you keep blabbing on about pure Tai people is useless. Thailand has a population of 66 million, if you are talking just about Lanna Thai people that is 6 million. Saying that Thailand is represented only by these 6 million is definetly without a doubt cherry picking.
-According to wiki Northern Thai is 18.8% of 66 million if you do the math (which I know you cant) it is only 12.54 million are of this "pure" blood.

Anyway like I said even if these "pure mon khmer" lan vang ancestors of the vietnamese who you keep stressing lived there for 4000 years did get mixed it doesnt matter how long they lived there. 1000 years of chinese mixing and initial mixing from the au viet tai peoples that mon khmer blood line is all but gone. Im willing to say its only about 5 to 15% evident at the most. Compare to Thailand the Tai that just came around 800 years ago have been mixed more recently than Vietnamese. Vietnamese facial features have already been changed to east asian and you cant just change it back from 2000 years.

You have never even been to laos either because Lao people even know who is Vietnamese and who isnt just by the face. Obviously Vietnamese face looks more east asian than even Tai peoples.


Even in Cambodia we can tell who are mixed blooded people. Those with more chinese or tai look different than us. We dont make it a big deal like you who only dreams of absract racial purity like some kind of nazi.

hey look everyone im ezio autidore let me post a video that doesnt focus on anyones face but just a crowd of moto ) and then say people look like this or that. Ezio if i find you 1000 pictures of vietnamese riding motos is it the same as your lame video?

Two Minutes on a Phnom Penh Street - YouTube phnom penh street where most are mon khmer

Back to real life (unlike ezio)
Ladies of Vietnam3 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
This lady lives in a village along the Mekong River and I asked the guide to tell her that she was very beautiful but she didn't think she was beautiful at all as the Vietnamese like light skinned people better than dark skin people. I thought she looked really sad.
Saigon Riders | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
ah yes the infamous moto riding clip ezio gives us ^

Saigon Riders | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
now remember these are from saigon the supposed darkest of vietnamese )

Happy Tourists Saigon | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
ah wow ezio i cherry picked this one a dark skin vietnamese ciclo driver he must be mon khmer )

A Vietnamese Photo Shoot | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon
A Family That Rides Together | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon moto riders something ezio loves

Saigon | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon notice the man on far right has dark skin but still looks like a vietnamese

Saigon Traffic, Ho Chi Minh City | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon traffic
Saigon-traffic-bikes-HCM-City-Vietnam (16) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
gasp a crowd in phnom penh because of dark skin ) lol nope still saigon notice the face is still east asian just a tan with it .

Saigon-traffic-bikes-HCM-City-Vietnam (30) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
a mon khmer man driving two vietnamese ) haha doubt it again just because his tan doesnt make his ethnicity different
Saigon traffic. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Afternoon traffic at Tan Binh district | Flickr - Photo Sharing!


these pics are side by side on this site Miss ethnic 2007, Viet ethnic and rural girl
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1467774_b5.jpg tay ethnic person
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1467776_b4.jpg khmer

kinh
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1464004_14.jpg

heres a song about the pako people sung by a vietnamese in a traditional mon khmer outfit

C Gi PaKo - Trung H lol and you cant tell the difference between vietnamese and mon khmer )

Remember what I said ezio you can tell if someone is partly of khmer blood just by the facial feautures. Its not all about skin color, but I dont blame you since Siam is borderline insane when it comes to insecurity about skin tone.
Continue...

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Anyway like I said even if these "pure mon khmer" lan vang ancestors of the vietnamese who you keep stressing lived there for 4000 years did get mixed it doesnt matter how long they lived there. 1000 years of chinese mixing and initial mixing from the au viet tai peoples that mon khmer blood line is all but gone. Im willing to say its only about 5 to 15% evident at the most. Compare to Thailand the Tai that just came around 800 years ago have been mixed more recently than Vietnamese. Vietnamese facial features have already been changed to east asian and you cant just change it back from 2000 years.
LOL ! this one made me sick

Think about it, when Lac Viet get invades and rule by both Tai and S.Chinese. If the population of the Tai and S.Chinese were greater than the population of Lac Viet, then why Vietnamese now end up to speak Mon-Khmer LOL??

Think about it by yourself that the Au Viet (Tai) and S.Chinese were the ruler of Lac Viet (Mon-Khmer), which means that both Au Viet (Tai) and S.Chinese had more power to control the society. If they were the ruler class which mean they definitely forced those Lac Viet (Mon-Khmer) slave to speak their langauge for sure.

So if the population of the Au Viet (Tai) and S.Chinese were greater like you are claiming about, then why doesn't Vietnamese today speak some kind of Tai or Chinese langauge? Why are they speaking Mon-Khmer????? Yes ! It definitely obviously, that the population of Lac Viet (Mon-Khmer) were "a lot a lot" greater than either Au Viet (Tai) and S.Chinese population combined. They were greater enough that was able to changed their language into the main langauge of the society (LOL Think about how many Lac Viet (Mon-Khmer) population were there that even the ruler class like Au Viet (Tai) and S.Chinese couldn't force them the change the language, I bet the Lac Viet (Mon-Khmer) population were definitely 3 times or more than the Au Viet (Tai) and S.Chinese).

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You have never even been to laos either because Lao people even know who is Vietnamese and who isnt just by the face. Obviously Vietnamese face looks more east asian than even Tai peoples.
LOL I was born in Laos myself and yes, I beable to tell those Vietnamese apart from the Tai for sure. Btw I really doubt of what you say that something like Vietnamese (1/3 Mon-Khmer+2/3 East Asian) are going to look more East Asian than the Tai (3/3 East Asian).

Nothing much to say in here, the video shown itself. that the Thai in Chiang-Mai are way more East Asian looking+ skin color than Vietnamese in Hanoi.

Vietnamese in Hanoi


compare to the Thai in Chiang-Mai


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hey look everyone im ezio autidore let me post a video that doesnt focus on anyones face but just a crowd of moto ) and then say people look like this or that. Ezio if i find you 1000 pictures of vietnamese riding motos is it the same as your lame video?

Two Minutes on a Phnom Penh Street - YouTube phnom penh street where most are mon khmer

Back to real life (unlike ezio)
Ladies of Vietnam3 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
This lady lives in a village along the Mekong River and I asked the guide to tell her that she was very beautiful but she didn't think she was beautiful at all as the Vietnamese like light skinned people better than dark skin people. I thought she looked really sad.
Saigon Riders | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
ah yes the infamous moto riding clip ezio gives us ^

Saigon Riders | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
now remember these are from saigon the supposed darkest of vietnamese )

Happy Tourists Saigon | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
ah wow ezio i cherry picked this one a dark skin vietnamese ciclo driver he must be mon khmer )

A Vietnamese Photo Shoot | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon
A Family That Rides Together | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon moto riders something ezio loves

Saigon | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon notice the man on far right has dark skin but still looks like a vietnamese

Saigon Traffic, Ho Chi Minh City | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
saigon traffic
Saigon-traffic-bikes-HCM-City-Vietnam (16) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
gasp a crowd in phnom penh because of dark skin ) lol nope still saigon notice the face is still east asian just a tan with it .

Saigon-traffic-bikes-HCM-City-Vietnam (30) | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
a mon khmer man driving two vietnamese ) haha doubt it again just because his tan doesnt make his ethnicity different
Saigon traffic. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Afternoon traffic at Tan Binh district | Flickr - Photo Sharing!


these pics are side by side on this site Miss ethnic 2007, Viet ethnic and rural girl
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1467774_b5.jpg tay ethnic person
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1467776_b4.jpg khmer

kinh
http://www.xinhdep.info/vietnam/dant...1464004_14.jpg

heres a song about the pako people sung by a vietnamese in a traditional mon khmer outfit

C Gi PaKo - Trung H lol and you cant tell the difference between vietnamese and mon khmer )
No, I can't tell different difference between S.Vietnamese and Mon-Khmer. They look definitely the same to me(both skin color and face). Also those photos you posted are small scale photos with only 1-10 people in the photo (which means could easily cherry picked from some specific group of people that living in the area).

Btw when we look at large scale photo with 100+ of people in the photos, majority there don't look like those in the photos of a few individuals those you posted at all (both skin color and phenotype). 95 % of them obviously got Mon-Khmer phenotype and dark skin. Only 5% could pass for East Asian.

Saigon

Traffic Jam in Saigon, Vietnam | Flickr - Photo Sharing!


Streets of Saigon, Vietnam


Obviously, only 5% of them that really have phenotype+skin color of East Asian.
 
Old 05-05-2013, 08:44 PM
 
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even with light skin...northern thai dont look NEA at all
http://pcdn.500px.net/3511472/a83740...0e5ebeae/3.jpg
http://www.northernthai.ca/images/welcometont.jpg

how about the streets of northern thailand
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/54/145...d3cb96f673.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ang_mai_03.jpg
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5175/5...f3fb85ea_o.jpg

or


northern laos
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-ge...k331082742.jpg

thai and cambodian are closer in looks then vietnam and cambodian...lao are closer to thai and cambodian then to vietnamese
 
Old 05-06-2013, 08:56 AM
 
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By begin a Chinese mainlander myself I would rather say northern Vietnamese could be related to Chinese in case if that person is mixed of Chinese and Vietnamese. Other than that? No. Because Vietnamese race doesn't share any common root with the Chinese race. All the cultural similarities you see are nothing but result of ruled by Chinese in the past.

For Thai, I would say that they could related to Chinese by themselves because Dai/Tai people do shared same origin with southern Chinese. For those dark skin in Thailand I would say that they mostly are what remain from the old kingdom of Khmer empire.
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