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View Poll Results: Should wealthy Asian countries welcome immigrants from all over the World?
Yes, there needs to be cultural diversity! 4 17.39%
Yes, provided the immigrants assimilate to the local national culture 6 26.09%
No 9 39.13%
I don't know / not sure 4 17.39%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-30-2013, 12:26 AM
 
Location: SGV, CA
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i am familiar with the capsule apartments. those are mostly used as crash pads for ppl that live on the outskirts and dont want to commute every night. i doubt many live in them full time, rents are a lot cheaper outside of central tokyo.

hadn't heard of the hk cage homes before. in no way is something like that the result of a growing population, however. conditions were even more cramp in the past in many places, just look at the hellhole that was known as kowloon walled city. those are prolly just ppl waiting for public housing.
Isn't that what I'm saying? Why would central Tokyo be more expensive than other parts of Japan, if not because of its population density?
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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The problem with a shrinking population is that when you have less people, your markets shrink, so your economy shrinks, and therefore factories shut down and companies have to downsize. This is true even if you are in a densely populated area like Singapore or Macau.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:10 PM
 
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there's a reason or reasons why immigration is not popular in the countries you mentioned, and it's primarily the culture and foreign policies in those countries. UAE, japan and s. korea might be as wealthy as, say, new zealand/australia/canada, but their culture and foreign policies are not conducive to immigration by other nationalities. foreigners might need to find jobs there just because those host nations have better economy than their native countries, but they won't want to live there as immigrants. if you want those countries to open themselves to immigration, then they have to adjust their foreign policies to enable easier transition to their culture. that's why there's massive immigration to US and canada because they make it easy for foreigners, even from the middle east, to transition to life and culture there.

say you're a woman, and you were to get a job in a country that has very strict laws on female behavior in public that you could get in prison (worse beheaded) for even minor infractions, would you want to be an immigrant in that country?
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Old 05-01-2013, 12:33 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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not a whole lot of nationalities are flexible enough to assimilate those host countries' cultures, unfortunately.
lol in Philippines it's opposite. The industrialized countries is the one migrating, but as long as they passed on the requirements that they have a heart of being a Filipino. It's okay with me.

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Old 05-03-2013, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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that's why there's massive immigration to US and canada because they make it easy for foreigners, even from the middle east, to transition to life and culture there.
What about countries like Germany, Denmark, and France, which aren't typpically viewed as nations "built by immigrants"?

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say you're a woman, and you were to get a job in a country that has very strict laws on female behavior in public that you could get in prison (worse beheaded) for even minor infractions, would you want to be an immigrant in that country?
Yes, if you happen to be a woman who is okay with being human chattel. It's not as rare as you think, and it's not because they love being slaves, but because they think it's most natural as a woman to be quiet, submissive, and modest, since all the women around them are. Don't underestimate the power of peer pressure in society.
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:00 PM
 
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What about countries like Germany, Denmark, and France, which aren't typpically viewed as nations "built by immigrants"?



Yes, if you happen to be a woman who is okay with being human chattel. It's not as rare as you think, and it's not because they love being slaves, but because they think it's most natural as a woman to be quiet, submissive, and modest, since all the women around them are. Don't underestimate the power of peer pressure in society.

indeed, what about those european countries? they actually dont make it easy to immigrate to those countries either. they tend to be very ethnocentric.

so if it's not rare to be imprisoned and/or beheaded, it's okay? and would that make them want to immigrate to those countries?
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:42 PM
 
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Hong Kong cage homes



Japanese capsule apartment
lol I am wondering how much each month for the capsule apartment in Japan?
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Manila
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It all depends on what the country wants to do with itself. However, if they want to remain competitive at the world stage I do believe they should open up to immigration. But knowing how many Asians think with regards to these issues, there should be compromises made by both the migrant and the host nation. Hence, why I voted "Yes, provided the immigrants assimilate to the local national culture"...
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Diversery is overrated
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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UAE, Qatar, Brunei and Bahrain have HUGE immigration rates. Rates that would make Americans cry.
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