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View Poll Results: Should wealthy Asian countries welcome immigrants from all over the World?
Yes, there needs to be cultural diversity! 4 17.39%
Yes, provided the immigrants assimilate to the local national culture 6 26.09%
No 9 39.13%
I don't know / not sure 4 17.39%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-29-2013, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Countries like Taiwan, Singapore, Brunei, UAE, Qatar, South Korea, and of course Japan have an aging population that will lead to a shrinking population and eventually a shrinking economy. Should Asian countries do what North America and Western Europe have done and welcome immigrants from all over the world, not just people who have ancestors from their country. I'm talking about welcoming Russians, Ethiopians, and Mexicans to Seoul and Tokyo. And by immigration I mean future CITIZENS who are full members of the nation and not simply guest workers.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:08 PM
 
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Countries like Taiwan, Singapore, Brunei, UAE, Qatar, South Korea, and of course Japan have an aging population that will lead to a shrinking population and eventually a shrinking economy. Should Asian countries do what North America and Western Europe have done and welcome immigrants from all over the world, not just people who have ancestors from their country. I'm talking about welcoming Russians, Ethiopians, and Mexicans to Seoul and Tokyo. And by immigration I mean future CITIZENS who are full members of the nation and not simply guest workers.

those countries could, but the citizens themselves in the countries you mentioned are not really the most welcoming/friendly in the world, especially the ones in the middle east. and you ask russians and ethiopians to emigrate to such countries as UAE, brunei and qatar? talk about such potential culture clashes. even nationalities as flexible as filipinos can still encounter harsh penalties in middle east because of those countries' culture. and because of those countries' cultures, they dont have as much welcoming foreign policy as say canada and US.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:12 PM
 
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That's why the second option is there: let's have more immigrants as long as we require them to assimilate to our culture.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:29 PM
 
Location: City of Angels
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every country should have open borders
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:29 PM
 
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That's why the second option is there: let's have more immigrants as long as we require them to assimilate to our culture.
not a whole lot of nationalities are flexible enough to assimilate those host countries' cultures, unfortunately.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:31 PM
 
Location: City of Angels
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assimilation is overrated
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:50 PM
 
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I'm not convinced an aging population is as much of a problem as some pundits claim it to be. What's wrong with a shrinking population? The Japanese may have money but they live in apartments so small it would be considered animal cruelty if monkeys lived in them. Fewer people means more space per person. I say let Asia depopulate, human beings are not meant to live in cages.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:04 PM
 
Location: City of Angels
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I'm not convinced an aging population is as much of a problem as some pundits claim it to be. What's wrong with a shrinking population? The Japanese may have money but they live in apartments so small it would be considered animal cruelty if monkeys lived in them. Fewer people means more space per person. I say let Asia depopulate, human beings are not meant to live in cages.
uh

you do realize that the avg floor area per household is up in japan, right? while at the same time family size is down. this trend is true in most countries in the world. populations might be rising, but houses are becoming bigger and family size is shrinking. which means more space not less. the notion that ppl are living in cages is laughable.

that said, i agree with your overall point, i dont think an aging population is as big of a problem as people think - as long as the appropriate adjustments are made to pension systems, etc and as long as there is the productivity growht to make up for it.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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the notion that ppl are living in cages is laughable.
Hong Kong cage homes



Japanese capsule apartment

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Old 04-29-2013, 10:52 PM
 
Location: City of Angels
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i am familiar with the capsule apartments. those are mostly used as crash pads for ppl that live on the outskirts and dont want to commute every night. i doubt many live in them full time, rents are a lot cheaper outside of central tokyo.

hadn't heard of the hk cage homes before. in no way is something like that the result of a growing population, however. conditions were even more cramp in the past in many places, just look at the hellhole that was known as kowloon walled city. those are prolly just ppl waiting for public housing.
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