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Old 05-22-2013, 11:51 PM
 
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You must live under rock.

DailyTech - Foxconn Installs Anti-Suicide Nets at Its Facilities

But yeah I agree with you. China has some of the most stellar work conditions in the developed world.

/sarcasm off
Foxconn is notorious even in China and is far from representative. It's like to say Detroit represents US cities.
China government actually investigated them and forced them to change. You also need to know it is a place for young people with no college education only, just like McDonald's used to be. Older workers or educated youth don't work there.

In addition, many Chinese workers work in state-owned companies, or are somehow self-employed.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:56 PM
 
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Actually the Chinese work week is not that bad, but I think certain companies work people much longer than that against Chinese law. Including the companies there that make your Apple products.
Asians all over work. It is their culture. The managers don't need to push that.

In Japan, it is a shame to go home on time. Sometimes the employees intentionally waste some time in the company in the evening, so their wife won't feel they don't work hard.

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Old 05-23-2013, 12:04 AM
 
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Probably a mirage as mentioned...
In a Glitzy City, Gruesome Conditions | Asia Society
Gruesome conditions, "cage bedrooms", etc.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:16 AM
 
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China and India are trying to achieve the status of the US. Our democrat leaders are doing everything in their power to make that happen and plunge us down to their depths.
You mean plunge them down to our depths---to become driven by money, a corporate servant, materialistic, uncritical, uneducated, over-religious, destructive to the planet and other people?
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:21 AM
 
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Probably a mirage as mentioned...
In a Glitzy City, Gruesome Conditions | Asia Society
Gruesome conditions, "cage bedrooms", etc.
Cage bedrooms are found in Hong Kong only. And it is for those who are waiting for welfare housing.
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:30 AM
 
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Neither Chinese media nor western media is trustworthy. They both have agendas or biases.

The best way to understand China (or India) is to live there.
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:43 AM
 
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Has anyone actually been to these places or better yet lived in them both nowadays and back in the day and could fairly compare?
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:57 AM
 
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The average person's life in India has certainly changed, but it's hard to say it's for the better. There is scarcely a village that doesn't have a TV and a cell phone anymore, but they don't have clean water to drink or decent sanitation. If anything, they are less happy than before because they see how well other people live on TV. You still need lots of money to put your children into a good school and that's way beyond the means of the average person. The rich have become much richer, but the poor are still simply poor. Inflation is putting even rice out of reach for many. Speaking strictly about India, no they are not better off.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:17 AM
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You mean plunge them down to our depths---to become driven by money, a corporate servant, materialistic, uncritical, uneducated, over-religious, destructive to the planet and other people?

You mean the basis for most of the world's international charities, the greatest collection of nobel prizes in the widest number of endeavors in history, the world's undisputed best Universities, the greatest amount of foreign aid donations of any country on earth, the largest and oldest national parks, maritime parks and state land presevation, the world's most dynamic entertainment, movie and music production center, the world's most cuturally diverse and language-diverse city, the world's most diverse large population, one of the word's freest countries, etc etc etc.

See how cherry-picking just one side makes one look like an idiot? Probably not.
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:54 AM
 
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Let me say, we in USA have our sympathies with India. We want to hear that India is rising quickly and it will compete china (a new US dream). In reply to our desire for a strong Chinese competitor, US media always inflates India's economic success and I rarely see any discussion based on facts on our TV channels.

As a matter of fact, standard of governance in China is far better than India (although they don't have democracy and freed of expression). Indians can only dream of a nicely performing government in presence of a system that was imposed by Great Britain approximately 175 years ago (just as we did in Iraq and Libya recently). The only good thing in India (only from western point of view) is the world's largest but limping democracy. In presence of corrupt system and proud killers like (cheif minister Moodi) chances are not equal for every one in India.

You can't even imagine the miserable life of thousands living in slum areas (of India) who have no toilets, drinking water etc. Indians are trying to improve but even in presence of large outsourcing companies and a few business groups it is very difficult for a poor dallat (lower cast) to struggle and rise.

On the other hand, in China (they don't have lower casts), they have no democracy but life in the slum (very few left now) areas is not that bad as they have toilets, something to eat and government is trying to educate and provide job every one. They have controlled their population growth rate successfully. Working conditions in factories and offices are "poor" from american standards but at least they have a job and a home.

I know majority in my part of the world does not want to hear this reality. So much so that some forum administrators remove even those comments and posts that discuss figures proving china is better than India. However, my advice is we must struggle to keep america ahead of every nation instead of spending money on others and then hoping that they will rise just to save our *.

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