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Old 11-07-2013, 09:55 AM
 
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Spain's recession won't be forever. You are from Puerto Rico so you of all people should understand how beneficial it is speaking the two most important language in the world. There are many Puerto Ricans who are bilingual right ? Aren't you glad that you speak both Spanish and English ? So why shouldn't the Filipinos be the same as Puerto Rico ? Puerto Rico and Philippines had the same history.

Chile and Philippines were good friends back in the 70's. Pinochet and Marcos were friends before.

Philippines having a different culture compare to other Asian countries, do not really have friends in Asia. Most of the time, Philippines feel out of place, so to restore ties with our Latin American cousins would be good for our country.

Also, it is just right to learn it. It was a part of the Filipino culture and history. Most Filipinos cannot read the old literatures that our Poets did and it is a shame that everything has to be translated to English for to understand. If US would oblige Puerto Rico to stop speaking Spanish and replace it with English, would you be happy with it ?

I have talked to many Latin Americans who said it would be good if Filipinos can speak Spanish once again and be able to restore ties with Latin America, how come it is quite different with you ?
Eh I suppose so. I generally feel pessimistic when it comes to my language and culture. Mostly its only poor people here that speak Spanish so it doesnt have a good reputation here. Add to the fact that we Waldo border the largest Spanish speaking country in the world that is very dysfunctional and you have really bad public relations as a result. But of course I'd be pissed if the US decided to wipe out Spanish in Puerto Rico.

Would you ever support reintegration into the US again? A lot of you already live here anyway
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:00 AM
 
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the development of the Philippines is about to suffer a setback, its in the bullseye of a massive typhoon as I type this. I heard on the weather channel that winds were at 190 mph and heading for the central part of that country, lets wish them the best.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:06 AM
 
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Thing is, though, Spanish is a pretty useless language if you want to move up in the world. All of Latin America is not any more developed than the Philippines, except maybe Chile, and Spain is in depression. English is still more beneficial for the Philippines. I think it was pretty stupid for the Philippines to have wanted independence from the US all of those decades ago, but I don't know the circumstances surrounding that
better to be independent and broke than another Hawaii. American influence in the Philippines is bad enough, I dont even want to think about how it would be if the Philippines stayed part of the US
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:08 AM
 
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Well you guys are Hispanic because you are colonized by Spain but also are conquered by Americans who removed some of its influence. But wouldn't it be ridiculous to claim the hispanic title if only 2-3% of Filipinos are actually true Hispanic with Spanish blood? but of course if Hispanic means a relationship with Spain then Philippines is already a Hispanic nation but that would also make Manado in Northern Celebes, Indonesia, Hispanic since it is formerly a part of Spanish colony until the Dutch claimed it and to support more many of its populace actually had intebred with the Spanish, even the ex king there.
How can you even make that claim? Where are you getting that from?
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:51 PM
 
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How can you even make that claim? Where are you getting that from?
Out of his nether region. How many times does it have to be said?Hispanic is NOT a race.
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Old 11-07-2013, 01:18 PM
 
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Out of his nether region. How many times does it have to be said?Hispanic is NOT a race.
That's true, you dont have to have Spanish blood to be Hispanic, but I'm doubting that only 2-3% of Filipinos have any Spanish blood. 2-3% seems more like the percent of Filipinos with significant Spanish blood, the old-money families. In small towns throughout the Philippines, the people in power usually look noticeably European-mixed. Isabel Preysler and many celebrities and politicians are examples of this type.

And then there are Filipinos who are full European, less than 1% of the population. Some examples are the Ayala family, Pilita Corrales and Peque Gallaga

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Old 11-07-2013, 07:03 PM
 
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Well you guys are Hispanic because you are colonized by Spain but also are conquered by Americans who removed some of its influence. But wouldn't it be ridiculous to claim the hispanic title if only 2-3% of Filipinos are actually true Hispanic with Spanish blood? but of course if Hispanic means a relationship with Spain then Philippines is already a Hispanic nation but that would also make Manado in Northern Celebes, Indonesia, Hispanic since it is formerly a part of Spanish colony until the Dutch claimed it and to support more many of its populace actually had intebred with the Spanish, even the ex king there.
Our culture is very hispanic. You can see it in our religion, language, food, dance, art and literature, cultural and religious festivities plus our family names. That is why Philippines is a member of the organisation called La Hispanidad. La Hispanidad is an organisation among all Spanish colonies that practise Spanish culture.

The percentage about Filipinos having Spanish blood is not that reliable. Since the Spanish left, the Census doesn't really account the every mestizo born any more so that was just a study conducted by an American and not everyone's DNA was taken.

Hispanic is not a race. Most non hispanic people get confusef with this word and associate it to someone who has Spanish blood. It is a CULTURE .









http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanidad

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Old 11-07-2013, 07:45 PM
 
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^ Which study? I've never seen a study that says how much Spanish blood Filipinos have
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:50 PM
 
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^ Which study? I've never seen a study that says how much Spanish blood Filipinos have
I just read it somewhere on the internet about a study done in a university in America
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Old 11-07-2013, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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^ Which study? I've never seen a study that says how much Spanish blood Filipinos have
Dunno but i just go to wikipedia

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That's true, you dont have to have Spanish blood to be Hispanic, but I'm doubting that only 2-3% of Filipinos have any Spanish blood. 2-3% seems more like the percent of Filipinos with significant Spanish blood, the old-money families. In small towns throughout the Philippines, the people in power usually look noticeably European-mixed. Isabel Preysler and many celebrities and politicians are examples of this type.

And then there are Filipinos who are full European, less than 1% of the population. Some examples are the Ayala family, Pilita Corrales and Peque Gallaga
Well i have to add that there are strong political dynasty in the Philippines (after studying stuff) and it appears that Mestizos in the media industry and politics are playing a bigger role than the Austronesian Filipinos.... 2-3% (3 mil) is enough to cover the entire archipelago....

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The percentage about Filipinos having Spanish blood is not that reliable. Since the Spanish left, the Census doesn't really account the every mestizo born any more so that was just a study conducted by an American and not everyone's DNA was taken.
Well there are 1 million Dutch-Indo left in Indonesia since more than half of them flee the country after the independence, plus the Portuguese etc, but it is very hard to say that the exxact number is around 1 million because there are many region with strong Portuguese traces (Ambon, Timor, NTT), Spanish (Manado) and Dutch (Bandung, Jakarta), however very few of these people would admit it or totally clueless about their own ancestry unless it is very clear in their ancestry line, i am really surprised that Filipinos kept it well with them. Ohh and don't forget the bastard kids they make during the colonial times.

Many of those who are half-Dutch are hated after the independence, so many changed their name.... but in Ambon and NTT portuguese names are common....

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