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Old 11-18-2013, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Macao
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Some interesting maps....of Malaysia and ethnicity.



Mostly interesting because I previously assumed all Malays were Muslim. Apparently not.




A bit interesting as I didn't realize so many Chinese were in Sarawak. I just assumed mostly west coast of Peninsular Malaysia.



Indian population is much higher in some spots than I imagined. I guess I assumed that at most it was only 10%...not sometimes 20-25% in certain states.

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Old 11-18-2013, 01:53 PM
 
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By definition Malay ethnicity is tied up with Islam. If you renounce Islam you renounce that ethnic identity and all the privileges that come with it. Note that bumiputera also includes the non Malay indigenous tribes like the orang asli, Iban, Dayak.etc who practice other religions, like Christianity or animism.

Yes, the Chinese have a long history in Borneo, that preceded the British actually. In parts of Kuching one can hear Mandarin spoken a lot.

Indians are indeed widespread in much of Malaysia. many live in their own villages or kampongs.
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Old 11-19-2013, 03:19 AM
 
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By definition Malay ethnicity is tied up with Islam. If you renounce Islam you renounce that ethnic identity and all the privileges that come with it. Note that bumiputera also includes the non Malay indigenous tribes like the orang asli, Iban, Dayak.etc who practice other religions, like Christianity or animism.

Yes, the Chinese have a long history in Borneo, that preceded the British actually. In parts of Kuching one can hear Mandarin spoken a lot.

Indians are indeed widespread in much of Malaysia. many live in their own villages or kampongs.
Sarawak and Sabah SERIOUSLY surprise me then! I mean, BRUNEI, one of the most Islamic conservative countries in Pacific Asia sits between the two of them? But, it sounds like Sarawak and Sabah might be the least Islamic? By far, perhaps?

Is that also reflective in the Indonesian part of Borneo?
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:09 PM
 
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Sarawak and Sabah SERIOUSLY surprise me then! I mean, BRUNEI, one of the most Islamic conservative countries in Pacific Asia sits between the two of them? But, it sounds like Sarawak and Sabah might be the least Islamic? By far, perhaps?

Is that also reflective in the Indonesian part of Borneo?
One has to look into the Malay identity or ethnicity, which more developed in Sumatra before flourishing on the mainland of peninsula Malaysia. Before the Malays arrived, the area was largely inhabited by the Negritos or orang asli, although that was a long time ago. This is the case in much of Asia. In East Malaysia Malays are not the majority, with large native and Chinese representations. Indeed I think Sarawak has as many Christians as Muslims. I've been and it doesn't feel as Muslim as the mainland.
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:52 AM
 
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How did Brunei become 'hyper-Muslim' if Sarawak and Sabah are so decidedly NOT Muslim?

Or is that basically the reason that Brunei did become 'hyper-Muslim'?
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:56 AM
 
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How did Brunei become 'hyper-Muslim' if Sarawak and Sabah are so decidedly NOT Muslim?

Or is that basically the reason that Brunei did become 'hyper-Muslim'?
I'm afraid I know next to nothing about Brunei. I didn't know it was 'hyper-Muslim', but I did know that it was ruled by a Sultan, and he was once the richest man in the world. I didn't think it was particularly Muslim, actually. The only person I knew from Brunei was actually ethnically Chinese.
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:02 PM
 
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I'm afraid I know next to nothing about Brunei. I didn't know it was 'hyper-Muslim', but I did know that it was ruled by a Sultan, and he was once the richest man in the world. I didn't think it was particularly Muslim, actually. The only person I knew from Brunei was actually ethnically Chinese.
Maybe I have my info wrong on Brunei then. I just assumed it had strong Islamic-based laws, as I believe that alcohol is completely banned from the country. Or so I seem to belief. Maybe I'll have to adjust my ideas on Brunei as well then.
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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Maybe I have my info wrong on Brunei then. I just assumed it had strong Islamic-based laws, as I believe that alcohol is completely banned from the country. Or so I seem to belief. Maybe I'll have to adjust my ideas on Brunei as well then.
Well yeah I don't know how strict they are, I just assumed it was similar to Malaysia, but yeah it might be moreso. But Eastern Malaysia in general is less Islamic, largely because Malays make up a small percent of the population.
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Old 12-02-2013, 01:09 PM
 
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Chinese people are highly visible in all parts of Malaysia, and Brunei as well.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:15 PM
 
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Chinese people are highly visible in all parts of Malaysia, and Brunei as well.
I don't know about ALL, I hear the east coast is more Malay, though I've never been. It's definitely true of West Malaysia (the west of the peninsula that is), though. In many places they dominate.
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