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Old 12-12-2013, 04:26 AM
 
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How is the situation today?

Has anyone lived in one of those countries? How are the nightclubs (nightlife) in there? I mean i imagine very few women and a lot of competition :O

I remember reading year ago that the number was unbalanced that some mothers would stand in some park with photos of their sons looking trying to find a girl for him ( i know that this must be far from the truth)
First off the gender imbalance hasn't even taken into effect. In 1985-1990 when a lot of our 20 year olds were born, then the gender ratio was about 1.11, which is only 0.06 higher than natural. It is after 1990 it started increasing.

Secondly, we need to take into account what kind of families who will seek male children. It is unlikely to be highly educated families, but instead lowly educated families and rural families. How do we know this, because the gender ratio for first borns is quite normal, but for people getting more children it is not normal at all. Normally highly educated families only get one child, while rural children can at least get 2 and often get more. Their children will struggle to get a decent income and a wife.

Among the chinese middle class the gender ratio is quite normal, and they are not going to experience too much difficulty finding a wife. From my experience it is not just foreigners who don't have too much difficulty, just make sure you have a decent income (4000 or more), basic manners and you will be fine.

At least in China they don't have the obesity epedemic, so finding a non-obese wife is much easier. Chinese women are not sleeping around during their 20s, which means it is easier for most men during their 20s. And Chinese women are not like Japanese women who often have no interest in sex or getting married.


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Old 12-12-2013, 04:30 AM
 
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Not that it helps, but there is a glut of unmarried women in Saudi Arabia.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:07 PM
 
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Not that it helps, but there is a glut of unmarried women in Saudi Arabia.
How can that be? Saudi Arabia has 135 men for every 100 women.

http://www.unfpa.org/gender/docs/Sex...ry_in_2013.pdf
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:13 PM
 
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Secondly, we need to take into account what kind of families who will seek male children. It is unlikely to be highly educated families, but instead lowly educated families and rural families. How do we know this, because the gender ratio for first borns is quite normal, but for people getting more children it is not normal at all. Normally highly educated families only get one child, while rural children can at least get 2 and often get more. Their children will struggle to get a decent income and a wife.
Sex selection actually started in the upper classes.

Sex selection: Cat got your tongue? | The Economist
Unnatural Selection: Choosing Boys Over Girls, and the Consequences of a World Full of Men: Mara Hvistendahl: 9781610391511: Amazon.com: Books
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:29 PM
 
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Hong Kong has the opposite problem as China and Taiwan. The gender ratio is 876 men for every 1000 women. Even if you were to remove all the female domestic helpers from the Philippines and Indonesia, the ratio is still imbalanced at 948 men per 1000 women.
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Old 12-12-2013, 04:42 PM
 
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It may have started with the upper classes, because they were the only ones who had access to abortion.

But the numbers are clear, it was continued by the lower classes. It is the lower classes in China who is getting more than one child, and among second children the ratio is out of whack. Also my experiences with middle class and rich people from China is that there are no preference for boys. Both the numbers and my experiences point towards the same direction, aborting females is a rural thing, and not very common among the chinese middle class.

That is important, because a lot of stories talk about unmarried men walking on the streets of Beijing causing trouble. But in reality the unmarried men are likely to be farmers or in towns working as manufacturing workers. Actually, I have lived in a chinese village for a month once, and I do remember there was a lot more males than females there. They were mostly entertaining themselves with alcohol and dance.
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Old 12-12-2013, 05:05 PM
 
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Not really the case in China.
In China, it is true that relatively rich provinces like Guangdong have a severe gender imbalance, but the imbalance is still found in rural areas there, not in Guangzhou City for example. Those people got rich by doing business or leasinng their home, but they have low level of education and do not behave like upper class people at all.
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Old 12-12-2013, 05:10 PM
 
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Hong Kong has the opposite problem as China and Taiwan. The gender ratio is 876 men for every 1000 women. Even if you were to remove all the female domestic helpers from the Philippines and Indonesia, the ratio is still imbalanced at 948 men per 1000 women.
Generally speaking, Chinese people consider Guangdong girls (including Hong Kong girls) less attractive. Many local men prefer women from the north.
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Old 12-12-2013, 05:24 PM
 
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Generally speaking, Chinese people consider Guangdong girls (including Hong Kong girls) less attractive. Many local men prefer women from the north.
Also, don't a lot of women from Hong Kong have very high standards, because they have been raised to expect the best.

That means the gender ratio is not really helping that much, because the women rather stay single than settle for a guy with low income or inferior looks.
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:38 PM
 
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I've read that 1.05 males are born for every 1 female. That comes out to 952 females for every 1000 males. In northern India, where sex ratios are often less than 900 females for every 1000 males, rural men often have a hard time getting married. Women have a lot more options and generally prefer marrying men in the cities, as urban folk have more upward mobility than rural folk.

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