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Old 01-12-2014, 08:33 PM
 
Location: East coast
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In the US, I think that people tend to think of Indians as their own race separate from Asians or Middle Easterners; when they think of a Pakistani, they may think of them as Middle Eastern simply because most of them are Muslim, and have no real perception as to the region's history or shared culture. But, unless they know that a person is specifically Pakistani rather than Indian, they wouldn't necessarily think of them as such.
I don't understand when people think that anyone who is Muslim or from a predominantly Muslim country is Middle Eastern (or vice versa).

Would the same people who say Pakistanis are Middle Eastern also think the same for Muslim Somalians, Bosnians or Malaysians? What about American-born white or black converts to Islam?
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Old 01-12-2014, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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I don't understand when people think that anyone who is Muslim or from a predominantly Muslim country is Middle Eastern (or vice versa).

Would the same people who say Pakistanis are Middle Eastern also think the same for Muslim Somalians, Bosnians or Malaysians? What about American-born white or black converts to Islam?
Yeah of course it's ignorance...I think they'd be able to tell Malaysians aren't Middle Eastern though.
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Old 01-13-2014, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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I don't understand when people think that anyone who is Muslim or from a predominantly Muslim country is Middle Eastern (or vice versa).

Would the same people who say Pakistanis are Middle Eastern also think the same for Muslim Somalians, Bosnians or Malaysians? What about American-born white or black converts to Islam?
Eh, truth be told, I don't think that anyone who assumes that anyone who's Muslim is Middle Eastern could be counted on to know that there's a difference between a Somali and a Congolese, what a Bosnian is, or that Malaysians, Chinese, and Koreans are totally different...
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:39 PM
 
Location: On an Island
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Pakistanis and Indians are basically the same people,often share the same culture and both are asians.
Sigh....why cant people actually read the previous posts in a thread. Would you say that for someone who was Korean and someone who was Japanese? Yes there are lots of similarities, a major one being both are asians, but Pakistanis are mostly Muslim which heavily influences their culture and Indians are majority Hindu or Sikh. Go to India and Pakistan and there is a MAJOR difference.
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Old 01-14-2014, 12:20 PM
 
Location: World
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Sigh....why cant people actually read the previous posts in a thread. Would you say that for someone who was Korean and someone who was Japanese? Yes there are lots of similarities, a major one being both are asians, but Pakistanis are mostly Muslim which heavily influences their culture and Indians are majority Hindu or Sikh. Go to India and Pakistan and there is a MAJOR difference.
Religion in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

80% Hindu, 13% Muslim, 2% christian, 2% sikh. Sikh comes at number 4.
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Old 01-14-2014, 12:24 PM
 
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Pakistan is clearly in Asia. Thus Pakistanis are 100% Asian.

The Asian American census category includes Pakistani.

Some ill informed people think Pakistan is a Middle Eastern state, and whilst it borders the ME- it is entirely Asian.
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Old 01-15-2014, 10:30 AM
 
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I'm Pakistani descent, and I'm asking this question out of curiosity, I know that Pakistan is geographically entirely in Asia, but a lot of times when I talk to "Asian people"(Chinese,Korean types) and I tell them i'm Asian too, they tell me that Pakis aren't really Asian.

When I talk to American people, they usually think Pakistan's in the middle east probably because we're mostly Muslim and because of the war on terror, we were put into the "Greater Middle East", but I don't really see myself as Middle eastern, but then Orientals don't see us as Asian either(the ones I know), so I don't know what exactly are we, I mean when I fill out a US census form I tick "Asian" but I'm not considered Asian by "Asians" in general, so even though I'm not eligible for Affirmative Action, I don't get the positive stereotypes that other Asians get, and I usually get the negative stereotypes middle eastern people get.

So do East Asians consider us Asian, or do you see us as belonging to another make-belief region?
In the States, Asian has become synonymous with Eastern Asian, even though yes that is only one part of Asia and this does not make the other parts and the peoples in them less Asian, its just how Americans think.

Americans don't know or care about the geography and history of our own country so you shouldn't be surprised that they have the same callous attitude towards that of other peoples and regions.

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Old 01-15-2014, 08:38 PM
 
Location: On an Island
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Religion in India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

80% Hindu, 13% Muslim, 2% christian, 2% sikh. Sikh comes at number 4.
Wikipedia? Really? I don't trust that. My point wasn't about the religion factor...why do you nitpick I wonder. Being #4 according to Wiki still goes to show that it is a majority religion.
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Old 01-16-2014, 03:39 AM
 
Location: S
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The 'yellow race'? How do Chinese view other Asians in terms of us and them? Are there any that they consider say, cultural cousins? I know a lot don't like the Japanese, but do they feel any more kinship with the Japanese than say Indonesians, let alone Indians? How do Chinese tend to view other Asians in general traditionally and now?
Can I say that Chinese people view other Asians foreigners??
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Old 01-16-2014, 07:44 PM
 
Location: World
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Wikipedia? Really? I don't trust that. My point wasn't about the religion factor...why do you nitpick I wonder. Being #4 according to Wiki still goes to show that it is a majority religion.
Well if you dont trust Wikipedia, then official website of Census by Governmenet of India is also there.
Census of India : Religious Composition

Sikhs are only 1.9% of India population. There are more Christians in India then Sikhs.
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