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Old 06-06-2017, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Macao
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I don't see it's contradictory?
There can be more women than men, but more young boys than girls. I don't know the real data though.
1.12 men to women...implies that there is a gender imbalance of significantly more men. 112 men to every 100 women.

If the men were being killed off to due to war, than it should be the opposite...112 women to 100 men. Not 112 men to 100 women.
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:34 AM
 
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1.12 men to women...implies that there is a gender imbalance of significantly more men. 112 men to every 100 women.

If the men were being killed off to due to war, than it should be the opposite...112 women to 100 men. Not 112 men to 100 women.
He meant in Vietnam there are more women than men, but there are more boys than girls, as in those under 15. It's very common in Asian societies as Asians tend to be grossly sexist, plenty of women abort/are forced to abort the feti by partner if the gender is revealed to be female through examination.
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Old 06-07-2017, 07:56 AM
 
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south korea's sex ratio is even. why is it being included in this discussion?
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Old 06-07-2017, 09:12 AM
 
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He meant in Vietnam there are more women than men, but there are more boys than girls, as in those under 15. It's very common in Asian societies as Asians tend to be grossly sexist, plenty of women abort/are forced to abort the feti by partner if the gender is revealed to be female through examination.
Yeah, I'm definitely aware of the abortions of females. That's why I was a bit curious about his females are more than men stats, and his men are killed by war statement.

Anyways, I just looked it up. 1.12 men over women. Vietnam basically looks like another society much like South Korea and China, that heavily favors male babies over female babies.
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Old 06-07-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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south korea's sex ratio is even. why is it being included in this discussion?
Where do you see those stats? Back when I used to live in South Korea (1996-2008), it was always extremely male-dominated, and the stats were way tilted towards statistically much higher ratio of boys over girls.

I just looked on wikipedia right now, and it is 1.07 men to 1 female. Which in the realm of gender differences, is still on the high end. When you look at places like Russia, Eastern Europe, on the other end of the spectrum, it is usually around .87 male to 1 female.

In general, South Korea and China, have always been on the high male realm statistically. Vietnam as well, just looking at the stats, which wouldn't surprise me, being of a similar cultural background and mindset with male/female thinking.
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Old 06-07-2017, 09:25 AM
 
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Where do you see those stats? Back when I used to live in South Korea (1996-2008), it was always extremely male-dominated, and the stats were way tilted towards statistically much higher ratio of boys over girls.

I just looked on wikipedia right now, and it is 1.07 men to 1 female. Which in the realm of gender differences, is still on the high end. When you look at places like Russia, Eastern Europe, on the other end of the spectrum, it is usually around .87 male to 1 female.

In general, South Korea and China, have always been on the high male realm statistically. Vietnam as well, just looking at the stats, which wouldn't surprise me, being of a similar cultural background and mindset with male/female thinking.
The gender ratio of all ages is 1.00 in Korea, but it's 1.07 boys to 1 girl at birth, which is just a teensy bit on the higher side as by nature it'd be 1.05 - 1.06. For example Sweden, Denmark, and Canada all have 1.06, so Korea isn't OTT at all in this regard.

Gender ratio of all ages is usually <1 in developed countries because women usually live much longer than men, and developed societies are really old.
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Old 06-07-2017, 12:46 PM
 
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This is an old thread, and I want to add one thing that I didn't know back then. The gender imbalance in China is caused by two factors, not just infanticide.

Due to the one child policy, you have to pay to register your additional children. Poor chinese are more likely to pay a boy than a girl. Many of these children reappear later, and get back into the system.
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Old 06-07-2017, 08:02 PM
 
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Where do you see those stats? Back when I used to live in South Korea (1996-2008), it was always extremely male-dominated, and the stats were way tilted towards statistically much higher ratio of boys over girls.

I just looked on wikipedia right now, and it is 1.07 men to 1 female. Which in the realm of gender differences, is still on the high end. When you look at places like Russia, Eastern Europe, on the other end of the spectrum, it is usually around .87 male to 1 female.

In general, South Korea and China, have always been on the high male realm statistically. Vietnam as well, just looking at the stats, which wouldn't surprise me, being of a similar cultural background and mindset with male/female thinking.
I did a web search for "South Korea sex ratio."

This is one of the links: https://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/...ast-in-number/

Also, an interesting article about China's missing girls. Turns out they might just not have been registered until age 20 for various reasons rather than the infanticide explanation.

Researchers may have ‘found’ many of China’s 30 million missing girls | National Post


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Old 12-02-2017, 02:25 AM
 
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Many countries have a slightly higher boy than girl ratio at birth naturally, not a result of deliberate gender selection.

In places like Hong Kong, female is more than male. Reasons include men marrying women from poorer countries, women from poorer countries working in the city etc
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:17 AM
 
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I'm curious as to why Vietnam has more females than males than China or South Korea, given it's very similar to China in terms of being communist, sometimes stringent family planning laws (though no OCP) and sharing the same Confucian culture. I know there is still a preference for sons among many, but I am wondering if it's to do with the social/economic structure in Vietnam.

This might be my perception, but it seems that Vietnamese women are a lot more involved in the economy than perhaps Korea was 30 years ago...but then again so were the Chinese...but anyway, if you go to any Vietnamese city you will mostly see women out - selling things, carrying things, even old women shovelling asphalt. Then in rural areas you'll see them bent over in rice paddies, and also doing things like traditional weaving, not to mention cooking, at markets.etc.

Of course I'm sure Korean women did a lot of that traditionally too, and now are involved in the economy, but I'm curious as to why Vietnam is not like China or Korea? Japan is a different case since it's more advanced, both economically and dare I say, in terms of their thinking. But Vietnam was a poor, most rural place yet it seems there is no gender bias towards males there. This is the case in much of SEA too...

I don't know if this is a crazy theory, but I've also heard more females are born closer to the equator...I wonder if that might possibly have an impact? lol
There is a lot of gender bias and inequality in the past. It was said that women had to work and support the family while the men drunk and chit chat with friends all day. It was not true but that was the stereotype.
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