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Old 03-13-2014, 08:30 AM
 
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what are the similarities and differences between these 2 countries


also, do Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan folks dis-like each other

or how do Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan feel about each other.


(just asking cause the Borat movie myth that implies Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan folks hate each other)
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Old 04-06-2014, 02:05 PM
 
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Kazakhs, Kyrgyz and Mongolians are nomadic cultures. They are more free and less religious. People from those countries look North East Asian with some Caucasian admixture.

Uzbeks and Uygurs are rather Caucasian with some North Asian admixture. They are more conservative, as religious as Arabs.

Yes, there is some animosity along this racial and cultural divide line. BTW, I am Kyrgyz.
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Old 04-07-2014, 02:47 AM
 
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I disagree Mongolians have caucasian admixture.
And disagree Uygurs rather Caucasian. They look similar to Pakistanis and Afghans.
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Kazakhs, Kyrgyz and Mongolians are nomadic cultures. People from those countries look North East Asian with some Caucasian admixture.

Uzbeks and Uygurs are rather Caucasian with some North Asian admixture. They are more conservative, as religious as Arabs.

Yes, there is some animosity along this racial and cultural divide line. BTW, I am Kyrgyz.
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Old 04-08-2014, 03:43 AM
 
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Mongolians certainly have Caucasian admixture. Many Mongolians have light brown hair. I have seen a couple of them just a week ago. Look at the images of Mongolians at Google.

I am Kyrgyz and I made a genetic analysis at 23andme.com and familytreedna.com. It shows 67% genes coming from North Eastern Asia, 18% from Eastern Europe and 15% from South Asia and Middle East.

Caucasians and White People are not synonyms. It is a broader thing. Certainly, Afgans and Pakistanis are Caucasian. Please read things before commenting. Do not refer to your personal opinion but the scientific facts and classification.

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I disagree Mongolians have caucasian admixture.
And disagree Uygurs rather Caucasian. They look similar to Pakistanis and Afghans.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:54 AM
 
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I'm Kazakh from Kazakhstan and I wouldn't say that we hate Uzbeks just because they are Uzbeks. It's all stereotypes. In most cases Kazakhs in Kazakhstan doesn't like illegal Uzbek immigrants coming from rural areas to our cities and breaking laws. Uzbeks in Uzbekistan I would say more jealous rather than hate Kazakhs due to Kazakhstan's relatively higher positions in all aspects like economy, living standards, regional importance, etc though it mainly based on hydrocarbons sales.
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Old 06-10-2014, 06:11 AM
 
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I live in Uzbekistan. Uzbek and I was born here. in my opinion, the Uzbeks and Kazakhs very good relationship. Kazakhs and Kyrgyz Mongolia is very similar to each other and Uzbeks Kavkazi Arabs alike
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Old 07-28-2014, 04:23 PM
 
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Uzbeks were traditionally the more settled and prosperous of the two groups, right?

Also, is there a single Central Asian country that is recognized as being somehow more cultured or refined than others? Is any one culture known for having a better or more popular cuisine than the others?
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Old 07-28-2014, 09:58 PM
 
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Actually I was watching Aljazeera a few nights ago, and apparently there is some beef between Uzbeks and some other ethnicity in one of the capital cities in one of the Stans. I think it is Kyrgyzstan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZVephkifVY

Some of that written language looks korean.
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:30 AM
 
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Kazakhs and Uzbeks don't dislike each other - they have a shared history, and much of their cultures and traditions overlap. That said, I was in Almaty (Kazakhstan) earlier this year and must say that I'm amazed at the oil-fuelled wealthy economy there - posh cars filled Almaty's streets (BMWs, Mercs, Porsches, Maseratis and expensive SUVs), whereas in poorer Tashkent (Uzbekistan), you have smaller cars (Nexia, Matiz, Chevrolet, Lada).

Per capita, you earn 4-5 times more in Kazakhstan than in Uzbekistan and in my company here in Almaty, there are quite a few Uzbek executives. Relationship here is virtually seamless - no rivalry or animosity between Kazakhs and Uzbeks. They work and socialise together.

If it snows heavily in Almaty or Astana (Kazakhstan's capital), efficient public services to clear the roads ensure that traffic goes on normally. If the same thing happens in Tashkent or any city in Uzbekistan, you can be assured that the cities will come to a virtual standstill.

Buildings in Kazakhstan tend to be better constructed and also well-insulated against the harsh winters. Electricity and utilities are good. Not so in Uzbekistan, there are no electricity or hot water in many homes in Samarkand, Bukhara or Tashkent, so most people there depend on personal generators.

Kazakhstan's wealthier economy sees many Western branded consumer goods available there: Armani, Zara, etc. Hediard groceries from France, Saks Fifth Avenue store in Almaty, the Ritz-Carlton Hotel. Hard Rock Cafe, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Burger King all have outlets in Almaty, Kazakhstan. You don't find all these in Uzbekistan.

Among my colleagues, I find many Kazakhs have Chinese-like Mongolian features, whereas most of my Uzbek colleagues look similar to Afghans or Iranians with darker, swarthier features, ditto Kazakhs from the southern part of their country bordering Uzbekistan. But then, there's quite a bit of racial mixing, so you cannot simply label someone a Kazakh or Uzbek just by their looks.

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Old 12-08-2014, 08:37 AM
 
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Where are the Caucasus mountains at? They are right across the Caspian Sea from Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan. Don't you know that Caucasian features originated from a blend of central and Southern Asian/Leventine populations during the Glacial period in Europe? Such features did not originate in Western Scotland and therefore it would not be unusual to find such features in parts of Western Central Asia. There has always been a blend of such features from the Iranian Plateau to the regions around Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan and Northern India. Caucasian is just a blanket term for any white skinned population with certain features, most normally used in Western Europe, but the name itself originates from the Caucasus Mountains from which such features are said to derive. The Caucasus mountains are not in Western Europe. And Europeans are in reality EUR ASIANS in the first place.
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