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Old 03-21-2014, 09:36 PM
 
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When exactly do you think that the Chinese Communist Party (and Yes, I am aware that China and its politics and policies obviously changed a lot since the days of Mao Zedong) will lose power in China? Do you think that this will happen in the next couple of/several decades?
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Old 03-22-2014, 12:51 AM
 
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When exactly do you think that the Chinese Communist Party (and Yes, I am aware that China and its politics and policies obviously changed a lot since the days of Mao Zedong) will lose power in China? Do you think that this will happen in the next couple of/several decades?
They have a Communist Party but they don't preach nor practice communism.

Most likely, the Communist Party will keep evolving according to times. One day the Communist Party will institute a republic that is similar to the western world.
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Old 03-22-2014, 12:53 PM
 
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China is already a respublic in name. In practice, it is one with a dominant, or only existing real party. So the change, and challenge, is not necessarily to have a multi-party system like that in the West, but to introduce effective watch dog system so that the party itself can be accountable to its actions and retain an ability to fight against corruption. It may be an impossible task, but 30 years ago, no one would have believed that China's economy would reach 1 trillion dollar in size, let along grow to nearly 9 trillion and be #2 in the world today.
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Old 03-22-2014, 04:56 PM
 
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I don't think the party will fail. What I think is that the system will turn more capitalistic in the future.

For instance my wife recently went to fix her tooth. The public hospital wanted to charge us 1000 rmb, had huge waiting lines, and terrible service. Private dentist charge us 300 rmb, had hardly any waiting lines and excellent service. They also did a better job because they don't pick the fastest and easiest method.

Due to the incompetentcy of the government to run anything reasonably efficient, then private services will take over when people start realizing. As long as the Chinese government doesn't try to stop the migration from public to private services, then they will be able to remain in power. In case people demand more political rights, then they can try democracy at province level. In the future the communist party will have less power, but they will still remain in power.
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Old 03-22-2014, 05:32 PM
 
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Agreed, I think the party will do whatever is necessary to preserve China as a one party state, and that it will achieve that by allowing limited democracy at local levels between party members and will institute structural reforms to make itself more accountable and less corrupt. This will make them palatable enough to the masses to survive and flexible enough for China to grow. China will develop a novel system, and this new tradition will be less dysfunctional then what there is now, but still very different from our local political tradition.
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Old 03-22-2014, 05:39 PM
 
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Two-three decades. Atm, Most Chinese don't seem to be interested in democracy enough to cause a fuss about one-party rule as long as the economy is steaming along.
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:19 PM
 
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In China's case I am not even sure that having a multi-party democracy would even be beneficial given it's population size since having government changes every couple or years can hinder progress (see India for an example). Singapore seems to be successful despite being ruled by one party for it's entire existence.
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:35 PM
 
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India is always the perfect negative go-to example of what a multi-party "democracy" can bring. If China ever get something like what India has today, it would be calamitous for the whole Chinese Nation.
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Old 03-22-2014, 06:44 PM
 
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Yeah, even country like Indonesia is a horrible sample of democracy (too much legal stuff, bureaucracy and such craps holding its progressiveness), it's almost like India but slightly better. And compare it to Vietnam who had a great progress going on in just 20 years.
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Old 03-23-2014, 12:26 AM
 
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India is always the perfect negative go-to example of what a multi-party "democracy" can bring. If China ever get something like what India has today, it would be calamitous for the whole Chinese Nation.
Hm...Hong kong has a limited democracy. Taiwan seems to function fine has a democracy. I think China can handle democracy. All that is left is to educate the peasants. Then, the population will dramatically drop like the rest of east asia and europe to a managable level. India is just fine how it is. Its still there and hasn't broken apart. It even has a nuke pointed right at the commies in Beijing. People say that American democracy is in a gridlock. They obviously have never sherman's memoirs. It could be a lot worse. Plus, you wouldn't be here, penny. Xi Jinping and bo xilia wouldn't send their kids to Harvard. For the CCP to fall, some things need to happen. The economy needs to totally crash. A huge environmental disaster that the CCP cannot contain. This caused the downfall of many dynasties. People actually want their rights. Most han nationalists are afraid of chinese democracy because they fear the europeans might come and rape them again. i'd honestly be more scared of the japanese. They're just muzzled by the US. THey're still tigers. The People's Liberation Army could barely handle Vietnam.
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