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Old 08-17-2015, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Mount of Showing the Way
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It is not a 100 % Han Chinese land.

Han people O3
Tibetan D1b
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Han people(Entry from Inner Mongolia) O3 (Middle East F series)
Yangtze River upstream O1 (Middle East F series)
Yangtze River midstream O2 (Middle East F series)
Tibetan D1a,c
Japanese D1b ,O2b,O3(From the continent)
Pacific Ocean person&Mongolia C
Washington, D.C.

USA,The attack in the Middle East.
World War is not over yet.

How to solve,Afforestation of desert

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Old 08-18-2015, 08:10 PM
 
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I think Tibet is a part of China.



Local people have been admitted and accepted.
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Old 08-18-2015, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Asia
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I think Tibet is a part of China.
Of course it is.


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Local people have been admitted and accepted.
What does this mean? What local people? Admitted and accepted by who?
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Old 08-18-2015, 11:26 PM
 
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Of course it is.




What does this mean? What local people? Admitted and accepted by who?
I think I'd have to agree on this. The people of Tibet are treated as second class citizens in Mainland China, especially by the Han Chinese(the majority). If anyone here thinks China "The America of Asia," s/he has absolutely no idea.
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Old 08-18-2015, 11:43 PM
 
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I think I'd have to agree on this. The people of Tibet are treated as second class citizens in Mainland China, especially by the Han Chinese(the majority). If anyone here thinks China "The America of Asia," s/he has absolutely no idea.
For example? Or just your imagination?

Han Chinese who have no direct contact with Tibetans often have positive or neutral attitude toward Tibetans. In any case there is no discrimination based on "race" alone.
Han Chinese who live in Tibetan regions have mixed opinions, but generally speaking they get along well. Quite some Han Chinese study Buddhism from Tibetan masters, including Jet Li.

China also has affirmative actions for Tibetans, and they are exempt from the one child policy.
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Old 08-19-2015, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Asia
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In any case there is no discrimination based on "race" alone.
Based on race alone? Haha! The Chinese citizens are also guaranteed the right of free expression in the Chinese Constitution! Haha! Let a Hundred Flowers Bloom!

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Han Chinese who live in Tibetan regions have mixed opinions, but generally speaking they get along well.
Right! Because the Tibetans dare to not get along well with their Han overlords! Haha!

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Quite some Han Chinese study Buddhism from Tibetan masters, including Jet Li.
That proves it! The grateful lowly Tibetans love their benevolant Han overlords! Haha!
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Old 08-19-2015, 05:20 AM
 
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For example? Or just your imagination?

Han Chinese who have no direct contact with Tibetans often have positive or neutral attitude toward Tibetans. In any case there is no discrimination based on "race" alone.
Han Chinese who live in Tibetan regions have mixed opinions, but generally speaking they get along well. Quite some Han Chinese study Buddhism from Tibetan masters, including Jet Li.

China also has affirmative actions for Tibetans, and they are exempt from the one child policy.
There is an old Chinese say..."playing zither to a cow", meaning you won't get anywhere with those who refuse to see anything but their own perspective. So why bother?

China owns Tibet, end of story.
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Old 08-19-2015, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Lisbon, Portugal
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Tibet is officially an autonomous region of the People's Republic of China and it's internationally recognized as such. Therefore, Tibet is indeed part of China.

It's not a matter of opinion, it's a fact. Whether it deserves to be part of China or not, is an entirely different question though.
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Old 08-19-2015, 09:53 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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There is nothing supposed about China's attitude. China is now and always has been an imperialist nation. And I, for one, am not the least bit shocked.

I just like to remind the Chinese of their own continuing imperialism as they whine incessantly about western imperialism from many years ago.
It's comical isent it. The Chinese scream to no end about Western imperialism yet they are the imperial power of our age gobbling up Africa and threatening to gobble up Taiwan, the Philippines, etc.

This just proves that imperialism and colonization are ok only as long as it's not the US or a western European country behind it. Look at the UN "Decolonization Committee" and their endless rambling about British "colonies" like Bermuda but not a single peep about Tibet, Crimea, etc. Never mind that all remaining British "colonies" are almost entirely self governing except for defense, foreign affairs, and a few other odds and ends like citizenship, court of final appeals (UK Supreme Court), etc. And of course the obvious: the people of Bermuda are British by choice. They are British because they want to be, nobody is forcing them to be British. They could become independent tomorrow if they wanted to and nobody in the UK would stop them. It's called self determination - something the people of Tibet lack.
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:07 AM
 
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The only real functional difference between Tibet, Xinjiang etc in China and say, Oklahoma and the Dakotas in the US is......that China's native people are still around, and much of the Native American populations have been exterminated through years of wars, removal, more wars and banishment onto barren reservations.

In fact, big countries like the US, China, Russia etc were all created through conquest of one form or another. You can sugarcoat this and that all you want, but there were losers and winners in the growth and the expansion of all these countries. Hence, to say that Tibet or whatever does or does not belong to China is moot, just like it's pointless to argue that the Dakotas should be returned to the Siouxs or whoever.

But I do agree that China should end its victim rhetorics.
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