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Old 11-13-2015, 12:44 PM
 
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those freaks are usually brainwashed bumpkins who have absolutely no idea of Tibet's history and its relation to China. They just follow the crowded thinking they are progressive and intelligent when it is the opposite. Many are stupid enough to believe that prior to "China occupation" Tibet was some kind of untainted peaceful and idyllic paradise when it was more like South Carolina before the Civil War.
So that would make the Dali Lama - like Osama bin Laden ? Really SC before the war ?? WTF does SC before the war have to do with Tibet ?

I am going to go out on a limb here and guess you are not from Tibet. This has got to be the worst comparisons I have seen this year.
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Old 11-14-2015, 02:48 AM
 
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So that would make the Dali Lama - like Osama bin Laden ? Really SC before the war ?? WTF does SC before the war have to do with Tibet ?

I am going to go out on a limb here and guess you are not from Tibet. This has got to be the worst comparisons I have seen this year.
No, it does illustrate your lack of understanding about Tibet's past (before the so called Chinese "occupation"). If you had known it, you would see the comparison between the slave society of the lamas theocracy and SC's slave holding society during the Antebellum period.
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Old 11-14-2015, 05:01 AM
 
Location: mansoura
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yes part of china
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:10 AM
 
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So that would make the Dali Lama - like Osama bin Laden ? Really SC before the war ?? WTF does SC before the war have to do with Tibet ?

I am going to go out on a limb here and guess you are not from Tibet. This has got to be the worst comparisons I have seen this year.
Dali lama was the biggest slave owner in Tibet, in case you didn't know. When he fled to India, dozens of donkeys were used to carry his wealth. Tibet was a Slavery society prior to China occupation. Slaves and serfs didn't have any human right and hardly had enough to eat but had to toil in the field everyday. 5% of the monks and nobles owned 100% of the land. Is this better than SC prior to the Civil War?

Now Tibetans have equal access to education, jobs and healthcare. In fact it is much easier for them to get in a good college than the Hans. And the only child policy never applied to them. Railways link Tibet to the rest of the world. Free Tibet , free it from what? A decent life?
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Old 11-14-2015, 08:52 AM
 
Location: downtown
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Which ugly do you intend to apply?

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Lol.

You choose.
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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Dali lama was the biggest slave owner in Tibet, in case you didn't know. When he fled to India, dozens of donkeys were used to carry his wealth. Tibet was a Slavery society prior to China occupation. Slaves and serfs didn't have any human right and hardly had enough to eat but had to toil in the field everyday. 5% of the monks and nobles owned 100% of the land. Is this better than SC prior to the Civil War?

Now Tibetans have equal access to education, jobs and healthcare. In fact it is much easier for them to get in a good college than the Hans. And the only child policy never applied to them. Railways link Tibet to the rest of the world. Free Tibet , free it from what? A decent life?
The problem with the "Free Tibet" movement is that it has long been funded and corrupted by the CIA. I mean if the US can use a Christian NGO to spy on North Korea or co-opt rap music in Cuba to foment unrest what makes people so sure that the "Free Tibet" movement isn't corrupt, considering this has been documented for decades and the CIA admitted to funding the Dalai Lama. To be fair though, the Dalai Lama did call out the CIA and stated that it has been more harmful than helpful. The point that I am trying to make is that few people know how Tibetans really feel although from what little data has come out from Tibet, the Tibetans do want to remain under Chinese rule although with HK/Macau-like autonomy.

Link to the NK-Christian NGO spying:
https://theintercept.com/2015/10/26/...rea-espionage/

US agency infiltrated Cuban hip-hop scene to spark youth unrest | World news | The Guardian
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Old 11-14-2015, 03:09 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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A test that I like to think of is, would the areas rebel if not military occupied. Tibet would revolt and violence would ensue if the Chinese military left. Now, I'm sure some Tibetans have assimilated into Chinese culture since their annexation in 1950 and many Han Chinese have relocated to Tibet, so Tibetan culture is no longer as strong as it once was. China is also reversing and relaxing restrictions on religion and minorities cultures.

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The bolded can't be assumed. Just because some monks have been protesting doesn't mean the country would revolt. (In fact, most of the monks who have self-immolated lived outside the Autonomous Region). And it's not a question of some Tibetans "assimilating" to Chinese culture. It's about many Tibetans (most of the country were serfs, remember) having improved their lives after the Chinese took over, being given leadership positions, gaining access to education, and so forth. This is not to say that some of those same people didn't also experience religious repression, job favoritism going to local Han, and other problems. Just saying that there are quite a few Tibetans who would NOT revolt. It's anybody's guess how that would play out; no one's taken a credible poll, but it's known that the Tibetan population inside Tibet is divided on the issue to a significant extent.

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Old 11-14-2015, 07:51 PM
 
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Now Tibetans have equal access to education, jobs and healthcare.
Yes, as long as they are willing to lose their own language in the long run.
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Old 11-15-2015, 03:03 AM
 
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You mean they were ruled by those sweet wooly camel-like animals that graze in the Peruvian Andes???

BTW there is a democratically elected Tibetan government in exile across the border in India. No they are not llamas ... nor alpacas ... or vicunas either.
Yes but that is a sham government dominated by a western educated elite class...hardly capable of really ruling over their far less cosmopolitan countrymen. Tibet is dirt poor, and those guys in exile wouldn't last a week, let alone a year, in power. LOL! Using them as a front to destabilize China is their real purpose...
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Old 11-15-2015, 03:05 AM
 
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Yes, as long as they are willing to lose their own language in the long run.
But, but, but...all Tibetan schools teach both Mandarin and Tibetan. But, heck, don't let any fact get in your way of a good story....
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