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Old 02-13-2016, 04:10 AM
 
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Of course Tibet is part of China.
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Old 02-13-2016, 07:59 AM
 
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Han Chinese has been enjoying their independence.

How about Tibetans?
What do you mean by Han independence? Han Chinese and Tibetan Chinese share the country, with equal legal rights and civil rights.
Most countries in the world have minorities, and usually it is a crime to pursue separation.
Han Chinese and Tibetan Chinese have the same rights in China, except Tibetans don't need to follow the one child policy and have reserved seats in college and government.
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Old 02-14-2016, 03:30 AM
 
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What do you mean by Han independence? Han Chinese and Tibetan Chinese share the country, with equal legal rights and civil rights.
Most countries in the world have minorities, and usually it is a crime to pursue separation.
Han Chinese and Tibetan Chinese have the same rights in China, except Tibetans don't need to follow the one child policy and have reserved seats in college and government.
I would agree if Han Chinese were forced to learn Tibetan language.
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Old 02-14-2016, 05:14 AM
 
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I would agree if Han Chinese were forced to learn Tibetan language.
Well, if the Tibetan culture and technical/military attainment were equal to the Han, the I think everyone would be willing to learn Tibetan. At this point, total devotion to a god-king monk, reincarnation, different levels of hell and serfdom just don't illicit the same kind of respect as science and technology in the 21st century....LOL!
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Old 02-14-2016, 07:26 PM
 
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I would agree if Han Chinese were forced to learn Tibetan language.
Most countries in the world force children to learn the national language. All (public) schools in the US teach in English only. SAT, GRE etc are in English only.

On the other hand,Tibetan language is taught in schools in five provinces of China. Students are allowed to choose to take the college entrance exam in Tibetan too.
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Old 02-14-2016, 08:20 PM
 
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Most countries in the world force children to learn the national language. All (public) schools in the US teach in English only. SAT, GRE etc are in English only.
And what kind of people want their independence in the US?

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On the other hand,Tibetan language is taught in schools in five provinces of China. Students are allowed to choose to take the college entrance exam in Tibetan too.
Well, you talked about education before.

How do you ask, if you only know Tibetan language, when you want to go to the Bund from Hongqiao airport in Shanghai?

BTW, do you have Tibetan version of the constitution in China? Oh, Can you become a lawyer if you only know Tibetan language?

མདུན་ངོས། གསར་འགྱུར། ང་ཚོའི་སྐོར། བསམ་ཚུལ། སློབ་གསོ། ཟིན་བྲིས། པར་མཛོད། གསལ་བསྒྲགས། འབྲེལ་གཏུགས།
中华人民共和国的宪法是制造民族分裂的根源

所以,中华人民共和国的官方语言用汉语是没有法律根据的,但有政府支持。停止藏语教学也没有法律根据,但是,也有政府支持。认定汉语是当地通用语言也是没有法律规定的(因为没有那个法规定哪个地区哪个语言是通用的语言)。而 在,西藏自治区和内蒙古自治区使用本地民族语言也是没有法律根据。
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Old 02-14-2016, 11:27 PM
 
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And what kind of people want their independence in the US?



Well, you talked about education before.

How do you ask, if you only know Tibetan language, when you want to go to the Bund from Hongqiao airport in Shanghai?

BTW, do you have Tibetan version of the constitution in China? Oh, Can you become a lawyer if you only know Tibetan language?

མདུན་ངོས། གསར་འགྱུར། ང་ཚོའི་སྐོར། བསམ་ཚུལ། སློབ་གསོ། ཟིན་བྲིས། པར་མཛོད། གསལ་བསྒྲགས། འབྲེལ་གཏུགས།
中华人民共和国的宪法是制造民族分裂的根源
所以,中华人民共和国的官方语言用汉语是没有法律根据的,但有政府支持。停止藏语教学也没有法律根据,但是,也有政府支持。认定汉语是当地通用语言也是没有法律规定的(因为没有那个法规定哪个地区哪个语言是通用的语言)。而 在,西藏自治区和内蒙古自治区使用本地民族语言也是没有法律根据。
I just told you China respects minorities much more than the US and many other countries. Han Chinese people in general do not discriminate minorities at all, and usually they have no problem in marrying minorities as long as other things match (education, income, and so on).

Tibetan is not the national language or China, but the official language in certain regions of China. The official version of the constitution is certainly written in Chinese only, but it does have translated versions in other languages.

停止藏语教学
is typical anti-China propaganda. Don't trust anyone from the groups in exile. They are paid to criticize China. It is their job to smear China.
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Old 02-15-2016, 03:35 AM
 
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I just told you China respects minorities much more than the US and many other countries. Han Chinese people in general do not discriminate minorities at all, and usually they have no problem in marrying minorities as long as other things match (education, income, and so on).

Tibetan is not the national language or China, but the official language in certain regions of China. The official version of the constitution is certainly written in Chinese only, but it does have translated versions in other languages.

停止藏语教学
is typical anti-China propaganda. Don't trust anyone from the groups in exile. They are paid to criticize China. It is their job to smear China.
你所不知道的藏族人口
1959年西藏自治区的少数民族人口比重为99.1%,到了2005年,这一比重下降到93.5%,我们可 以将这一数据与新疆维吾尔自治区进行比较,1949年,新疆的少数民族人口比重为93.3%,到2005年 时却降到了60.4%。
In 1959, minorities took up 99.1% of all Tibet Autonomous Region's population.

In 2005, minorities took up 93.5% of all Tibet Autonomous Region's population.

It is clear that many Han Chinese have been invading Tibet.

As for Xinjiang area, from 93.3% dropped to 60.4% in the same period.

What kind of "respect" is this? Do you agree I respect you if I occupy one of your rooms?
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Old 02-15-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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你所不知道的藏族人口
1959年西藏自治区的少数民族人口比重为99.1%,到了2005年,这一比重下降到93.5%,我们可 以将这一数据与新疆维吾尔自治区进行比较,1949年,新疆的少数民族人口比重为93.3%,到2005年 时却降到了60.4%。
In 1959, minorities took up 99.1% of all Tibet Autonomous Region's population.

In 2005, minorities took up 93.5% of all Tibet Autonomous Region's population.

It is clear that many Han Chinese have been invading Tibet.

As for Xinjiang area, from 93.3% dropped to 60.4% in the same period.

What kind of "respect" is this? Do you agree I respect you if I occupy one of your rooms?
So more Han Chinese went there = invasion? What about building infrastructures and business?
Do you know the ratio of Han Chinese in all of China dropped a lot?
The ratio of Shanghainese in Shanghai is only 50% now. Do you call that invasion too?
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Old 02-16-2016, 03:20 AM
 
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你所不知道的藏族人口
1959年西藏自治区的少数民族人口比重为99.1%,到了2005年,这一比重下降到93.5%,我们可 以将这一数据与新疆维吾尔自治区进行比较,1949年,新疆的少数民族人口比重为93.3%,到2005年 时却降到了60.4%。
In 1959, minorities took up 99.1% of all Tibet Autonomous Region's population.

In 2005, minorities took up 93.5% of all Tibet Autonomous Region's population.

It is clear that many Han Chinese have been invading Tibet.

As for Xinjiang area, from 93.3% dropped to 60.4% in the same period.

What kind of "respect" is this? Do you agree I respect you if I occupy one of your rooms?
That's a silly complaint. The US used to be a country filled with natives across the North American landmass, but whites steadily flooded across from east to west. Would you call that genocide, invasion? What's wrong with Han Chinese moving to less populated areas to look for economic opportunities? Tibetans are free to move to other places in China too. Your argument is as infantile and pointless as the daily haranguing of unemployed Tibet freaks at street corners near the UN whose sole job is to protest and collect welfare handouts from the US government.
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