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Old 01-09-2015, 02:10 AM
 
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The taiwan problem will be solved once China's military is on rough par with the US both conventionally and in strategic terms. Once the Chinese demonstrates a certain level of unacceptable cost to the defense of taiwan, that'll be the end of the whole ridiculous show. But by then, who know what China and taiwan would look like. In fact, who knows what will happen to the US by then. No sense in guessing and chest thumping now. The fact is, China has grown so big in the world that its strategic focus is far far beyond little taiwan.

China has much more important things to work on , like the South China Sea, South America, Africa and the Helium 3 on the moon. China's social challenges and environmental degradation are so pressing that they will and should take the full attention of the Chinese leaders. Taiwan's status quo as the ROC works out just fine, and China's Anti-Secession Law nicely balance out the American Taiwan Relations Act.

As for Tibet, I heard that China is secretly planning for an invitation to have the DL return for a visit. I am not sure what's really going on, but the head lama is getting old.
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Old 01-09-2015, 05:10 AM
 
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How nice to see ourselves popping out of nowhere.
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The taiwan problem will be solved once China's military is on rough par with the US both conventionally and in strategic terms. Once the Chinese demonstrates a certain level of unacceptable cost to the defense of taiwan, that'll be the end of the whole ridiculous show. But by then, who know what China and taiwan would look like. In fact, who knows what will happen to the US by then. No sense in guessing and chest thumping now. The fact is, China has grown so big in the world that its strategic focus is far far beyond little taiwan.

China has much more important things to work on , like the South China Sea, South America, Africa and the Helium 3 on the moon. China's social challenges and environmental degradation are so pressing that they will and should take the full attention of the Chinese leaders. Taiwan's status quo as the ROC works out just fine, and China's Anti-Secession Law nicely balance out the American Taiwan Relations Act.
Ikr? Such a ridiculous show, as if China has any sort of sensible justification to "solve" Taiwan problem.

It's so laughable that it's always the Chinese who has been talking about unification, including those that don't even live in China. They don't want to live in that ****hole but they just need to see another 23 million people to be pushed into it. Lol.

Btw you can stop pretending as if China owns South China Sea. It's not going to happen. You can give Africa and South America a try though.

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Well, the KMT has been in favor of "reunification". So maybe next time the KMT wins a presidential election, reunification would happen more peacefully.
Not gonna happen in a long, long time. KMT is pretty much a dead man walking now. They went too close with China, then they got voted out of office, simple as that.
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Old 01-09-2015, 07:34 AM
 
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The taiwan problem will be solved once China's military is on rough par with the US both conventionally and in strategic terms. Once the Chinese demonstrates a certain level of unacceptable cost to the defense of taiwan, that'll be the end of the whole ridiculous show.
My response to this would be to use Mongolia as an example of why the above won't happen.
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Old 01-09-2015, 07:53 AM
 
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My response to this would be to use Mongolia as an example of why the above won't happen.
I've always tried to stay out of these "when China invades Taiwan" scenario assumptions as it's way too unpredictable, but well, let's just say if that happens, Taiwan won't be the end of China's ambition, it's gonna go much, much further than that.
It's like the Third Reich. Hitler annexed Austria first, then Sudetenland, then the whole thing went out of control.
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Old 01-09-2015, 07:54 AM
 
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How nice to see ourselves popping out of nowhere.

Ikr? Such a ridiculous show, as if China has any sort of sensible justification to "solve" Taiwan problem.

It's so laughable that it's always the Chinese who has been talking about unification, including those that don't even live in China. They don't want to live in that ****hole but they just need to see another 23 million people to be pushed into it. Lol.

Btw you can stop pretending as if China owns South China Sea. It's not going to happen. You can give Africa and South America a try though.


Not gonna happen in a long, long time. KMT is pretty much a dead man walking now. They went too close with China, then they got voted out of office, simple as that.
Well, we'll see who gets the last laugh in the SCS. As for the ROC on Taiwan, it's probably going to become irrelevant soon anyway but it can always console itself with the dead man walking party and the Greens who are too cowardly to do what they really want to do.
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Old 01-09-2015, 08:07 AM
 
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Well, we'll see who gets the last laugh in the SCS. As for the ROC on Taiwan, it's probably going to become irrelevant soon anyway but it can always console itself with the dead man walking party and the Greens who are too cowardly to do what they really want to do.
As if you know Taiwan so well. You're just embarrassing yourself.

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Old 01-09-2015, 10:26 AM
 
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As for Tibet, I heard that China is secretly planning for an invitation to have the DL return for a visit. I am not sure what's really going on, but the head lama is getting old.
China has always wanted the DL to make a return visit, as a way of him demonstrating that things are ok in Tibet, sort of like giving Tibet the Good Housekeeping Seal. But that won't work anymore, after all the self-immolations by Tibetans. The DL wouldn't return, because he wouldn't want to be a pawn of the Chinese. He's always hoped he could return, but I doubt now that he'd do it.
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Old 01-09-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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I've always tried to stay out of these "when China invades Taiwan" scenario assumptions as it's way too unpredictable, but well, let's just say if that happens, Taiwan won't be the end of China's ambition, it's gonna go much, much further than that.
It's like the Third Reich. Hitler annexed Austria first, then Sudetenland, then the whole thing went out of control.
China's now working on regaining the territory from India called Arunachal Pradesh, because it used to be part of Tibet, and China doesn't recognize the treaty that gave it to India. They're building an extension of the Beijing-Lhasa railway to parallel that part of the border, to make it easy to move troops into the area. That will be their next annexation.
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Old 01-09-2015, 10:33 AM
 
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Not gonna happen in a long, long time. KMT is pretty much a dead man walking now. They went too close with China, then they got voted out of office, simple as that.
Isn't that weird, though? How did the KMT morph into a pro-China party? How did that transformation take place?
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Old 01-09-2015, 02:22 PM
 
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China's now working on regaining the territory from India called Arunachal Pradesh, because it used to be part of Tibet, and China doesn't recognize the treaty that gave it to India. They're building an extension of the Beijing-Lhasa railway to parallel that part of the border, to make it easy to move troops into the area. That will be their next annexation.
India has been doing the same as well...can't see China going to war with India over this.

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Isn't that weird, though? How did the KMT morph into a pro-China party? How did that transformation take place?
Bribery is the answer.
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