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Old 04-09-2014, 12:21 PM
 
Location: VA
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India has some serious social issues it needs to overcome like the unofficial caste system that's still prevalent throughout the countryside and even some urban areas, not to mention the high levels of corruption that infect almost every level of its government and private sector. Hell take a look at India's military procurement system, it's down right inept and dysfunctional to the point they make the costly and inefficient system the US has look downright pleasant.

While China has nearly the same issues it must tackle like the growing gender imbalance thanks to the one child policy and generally high levels of corruption all around, I feel that because of its more unified culture and outlook for the future; China is in a better position to deal with those long term issues than India is. But then again, who really knows what the long term future holds?
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:38 PM
 
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Hypothetically, an Indian-Chinese military alliance would be a scary force to be reckoned with!
(even worse if the Russian Federation decides to join as well)

Though weaker militarily/economically, India has a rich cultural heritage, helping spread Buddhism, etc. to China and other parts of Asia.
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Old 04-09-2014, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Exactly. China, until the European Age of Colonization and increasingly today, was the most advanced society on the planet for most of human history. The Chinese were living in an organized kingdom in houses, while most Europeans were living in huts in disorganized society (outside of the most developed parts of the Roman Empire)
Han China and the Roman Empire are often compared, and the comparisons make a lot of sense actually. Both existed at the same time, both covered a similar area and both had about 50-60 million people. They have been very influential today, with the dominant ethnic group in China known as the 'Han' and the Latin-derived languages in Europe known as 'Romance' languages.

India was advanced too, people don't often realise how advanced India was. The Indus valley civilisation in modern day Pakistan arose shortly after Mesopotamia, and were responsible for many inventions. The ancestors of many of today's Indians (in a technological as well as genetic sense) were living in dense urban settlements thousands of years ago with technology that was well ahead of anything in Europe:

Indus Valley Civilization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-09-2014, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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India has some serious social issues it needs to overcome like the unofficial caste system that's still prevalent throughout the countryside and even some urban areas, not to mention the high levels of corruption that infect almost every level of its government and private sector. Hell take a look at India's military procurement system, it's down right inept and dysfunctional to the point they make the costly and inefficient system the US has look downright pleasant.

While China has nearly the same issues it must tackle like the growing gender imbalance thanks to the one child policy and generally high levels of corruption all around, I feel that because of its more unified culture and outlook for the future; China is in a better position to deal with those long term issues than India is. But then again, who really knows what the long term future holds?
The OCP policy is no longer in effect and I feel the government as well as changing economics will start to reverse the gender imbalance, especially as you have more urbanites and people are less traditional. Generally, as countries develop you see less of a gender preference (as can be seen in most first world countries). China's main advantage is the very thing the west criticises it for: it's authoritarian power structure. If it wants to do anything, it can, and there's nothing the people can do about it. In contrast it seems India's government is rather unwieldly and India too splintered. I mean it's hard to govern a nation of over a billion people without some level of homogenisation. Unfortunately in the case of China I feel they've gone too far.
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Old 04-11-2014, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Rajasthan, India
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India is too inept and corrupt to be any significant challenge to China for the forseeable future. The one thing about eastern Asian culture, is their highly structural society. With China, especially, that includes a clear vision for the future
Yes off course India is best for its culture and socity........
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Old 04-11-2014, 05:48 AM
 
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India a superpower? Give me a break go look at their social indicators and then come talk to me. The US is just propping up India to go at it with the Chinese. Why don't you look up who was the country the US was backing from 1956 to late 80's? The most allied ally of the US.

Indians though are smarter because they have seen how the US has acted in the region with her allies. Also maybe you should read up how bad India is doing economically recently.

There is no comparison between India and China, the Chinese come out on top and are decades ahead of the Indians.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Fort Collins, USA
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The US is just propping up India to go at it with the Chinese. Why don't you look up who was the country the US was backing from 1956 to late 80's? The most allied ally of the US.
Cold War foolishness led US leaders to "tilt towards Pakistan" then because India had a close relationship with the Soviet Union. Notwithstanding the irony of a supposed promoter of democracy supporting a dictactorship over the worlds largest democracy, this made no sense from a realpolitik perspective. India is the world's second must populous country and the dominant power in South Asia - the US stands to reap far greater benefits from a relationship with India then it does with its much smaller (in both population and economic output) neighbor.

I'm also curious as to how the US is "propping up" India (after basically ignoring it until the mid-nineties). How about some examples?

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Old 04-11-2014, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Czech Republic
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China of course, Just look at their infrastructure and you will know the answer right away.
China is starting to be the next super power though there are still so many things that they have to improve in their lifestyle.
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Old 04-11-2014, 01:33 PM
 
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Yes off course India is best for its culture and socity........
Sorry, I can't agree with your statement. Until all of Indian society, especially the Hindu portion of the country, rids itself of its unofficial caste system, Indian society will always be inferior to China.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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I'm sorry but India doesn't come close to China and is far from a superpower.
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