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Old 04-15-2014, 07:29 PM
 
Location: East coast
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Since then, there has been more recent migration from China, this time all over China. There definitely is a major cultural gulf between Singaporeans and these 'mainland Chinese', with many people resenting the mass immigration. This applies also to Indians from India, Malaysians from Malaysia, Indonesians, and other Asians.
That makes sense. Within a few generations, culture and ethnic identity would grow apart. Would you say the gap between culturally rooted Singaporeans of any race and a recent immigrant of that same race, would be like that of an Italian-American compared to an Italian straight from Europe? Or even say an African-American and a recent African immigrant? Or perhaps colonial stock Aussies vs. recent immigrant Brits?

Or would it be smaller than that, if the Chinese or Indian Singaporean still retained closer ties to the mother country compared to immigrants to "Anglo" nations.

Are there ever tensions between the two groups, recent immigrant versus old stock?
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:33 PM
 
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Well, i'm sure i am a better person than Postman to answer that Markovian process, the Postman can give his inputs as well, but hey, the Postman though he knows Singapore well he is not Singaporean after all.. And doesnt speak Chinese...and he never really lived in Singapore !!!

I would saw most young Singaporeans don't trace the ancestry , we are all just Chinese Singaporeans, by dialect perhaps..


The is a strong divide between new immigrant Singaporeans and those who are born bred and live in Singapore.. I dont know much about the American old and new stock post revolutioin, but i would think it is pretty much similar
Oh right, I forgot, The Postman mentioned he's actually an Australian (of Singaporean descent), not Singaporean.
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:33 PM
 
Location: singapore
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That makes sense. Would you say the gap between culturally rooted Singaporeans of any race and a recent immigrant of that same race, would be like that of an Italian-American compared to an Italian straight from Europe? Or even say an African-American and a recent African immigrant? Or perhaps colonial stock Aussies vs. recent immigrant Brits?

Are there ever tensions between the two groups, recent immigrant versus old stock?
Yes there are small tension betweens recent immigrants and old stock, but we do not show it too obviously..

Recently there have been a lot of complaints about Pinoys. They produced a video promoting Singaporean tourism that was subjected to backlash for being poorly done..

There was supposed to be an event for Pinoys to celebrate their interpendence day.. Which locals are not too happy about either

Singaporeans complain a lot online and are keyboard warriors but always hesitant to protest or do some concrete action about it..
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:35 PM
 
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Singaporeans protesting over Philippines Independence Day held at Takashimaya | The Real Singapore

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Old 04-15-2014, 07:41 PM
 
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Well, i'm sure i am a better person than Postman to answer that Markovian process, the Postman can give his inputs as well, but hey, the Postman though he knows Singapore well he is not Singaporean after all.. And doesnt speak Chinese...and he never really lived in Singapore !!!

I would saw most young Singaporeans don't trace the ancestry , we are all just Chinese Singaporeans, by dialect perhaps..


The is a strong divide between new immigrant Singaporeans and those who are born bred and live in Singapore.. I dont know much about the American old and new stock post revolutioin, but i would think it is pretty much similar
Maybe not as much as you, but I still think my input is valuable. My mother is still Singaporean, after all, and I have relatives there. I go back frequently and know quite a bit about Singapore.
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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That makes sense. Within a few generations, culture and ethnic identity would grow apart. Would you say the gap between culturally rooted Singaporeans of any race and a recent immigrant of that same race, would be like that of an Italian-American compared to an Italian straight from Europe? Or even say an African-American and a recent African immigrant? Or perhaps colonial stock Aussies vs. recent immigrant Brits?

Or would it be smaller than that, if the Chinese or Indian Singaporean still retained closer ties to the mother country compared to immigrants to "Anglo" nations.

Are there ever tensions between the two groups, recent immigrant versus old stock?
Yes I'd say so, although in Singapore Mandarin-speaking Singaporeans probably relate better to these people from China than those who don't speak it as their major language.

A Singaporean, for instance, with have been more inculcated with western ideas, the English language, western media pop culture, will likely enjoy a wide range of cuisines from fish ball soup, chicken rice, nasi lemak, biryani, a South Indian thali, curry chicken, mee pok, be familiar with various cultures, more travelled, whereas a typical Chinese from Henan would be seen as a 'country hick' by them.

Well I think a sense of Singaporean identity really grew in the post war period. The government emphasised Singapore's multicultural character. 3 Races, 4 official languages and all that. All Singaporeans get along now and most think of themselves as Singaporean first.

There are some tensions, no doubt, but it's probably a topic singaporelady could tell you about more.
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Old 04-15-2014, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Yes there are small tension betweens recent immigrants and old stock, but we do not show it too obviously..

Recently there have been a lot of complaints about Pinoys. They produced a video promoting Singaporean tourism that was subjected to backlash for being poorly done..

There was supposed to be an event for Pinoys to celebrate their interpendence day.. Which locals are not too happy about either

Singaporeans complain a lot online and are keyboard warriors but always hesitant to protest or do some concrete action about it..
You seen the film Ilo Ilo? I really want to watch it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISovsVvX8Bg
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:02 PM
 
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You seen the film Ilo Ilo? I really want to watch it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISovsVvX8Bg
Is it just me or did that trailer spoiled most of the movie?
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Old 04-15-2014, 08:07 PM
 
Location: southern california
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a small group of people with a great deal time on their hands want to know all about racial issues and where to go for the interracial dating scene. they dont seem to be much interested in talking about anything else. its usually the same people.
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