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Old 04-20-2014, 05:45 AM
 
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For those who are not fully aware of these projects

Thai Canal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Nicaragua Canal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Essentially China will dig two canals in these two countries bypassing, or at least competing directly with the Panama Canal and Strait of Malacca which the US currently controls.

The Thai Canal for example will change so much in terms of how shipping is done that the Singapore government resorts to bribing to prevent it from happening. Basically Singapore will be a lot less important from both an economic and strategic (for the US of course) point of view. Its importance as one of the world's largest port and financial and business centers hinges to the Malacca and the shipping business it brings.
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Old 04-20-2014, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Of course as a Singaporean by birth I think this will be bad for Singapore, but I also think it's totally unnecessary. It hardly reduces shipping time by much, and it will just allow more of a Chinese stranglehold on the trade route.
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Old 04-20-2014, 05:57 AM
 
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Of course as a Singaporean by birth I think this will be bad for Singapore, but I also think it's totally unnecessary. It hardly reduces shipping time by much, and it will just allow more of a Chinese stranglehold on the trade route.
that's the whole point.
China doesn't want to depend on a trade route controlled by one of America's most loyal allies. If a future war happens, the US can easily cut the route so that ships can't transport oil and other resources to China.

It may be costly and not save much time, but when Singapore listens to Washington instead of being neutral, everything is worth it for Beijing from a strategic planning perspective.
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Old 04-20-2014, 06:06 AM
 
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that's the whole point.
China doesn't want to depend on a trade route controlled by one of America's most loyal allies. If a future war happens, the US can easily cut the route so that ships can't transport oil and other resources to China.

It may be costly and not save much time, but when Singapore listens to Washington instead of being neutral, everything is worth it for Beijing from a strategic planning perspective.
That's assuming there is some sort of war between the US and China.
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Old 04-20-2014, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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A canal in Songkhla and Satun
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Old 04-20-2014, 06:31 AM
 
Location: singapore
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that's the whole point.
China doesn't want to depend on a trade route controlled by one of America's most loyal allies. If a future war happens, the US can easily cut the route so that ships can't transport oil and other resources to China.

It may be costly and not save much time, but when Singapore listens to Washington instead of being neutral, everything is worth it for Beijing from a strategic planning perspective.


I don't understand what you mean here ..
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Old 04-20-2014, 06:31 AM
 
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That's assuming there is some sort of war between the US and China.
China simply doesn't want to give the US such leverage and I think that's understandable.
There doesn't have to be a war - the US excels at embargoes and other sanctions if things don't go its the way it likes.

If Singapore doesn't do everything the US says, that will be a different story.
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Old 04-20-2014, 06:33 AM
 
Location: singapore
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I know Singapore is seen as a minion to the US, but our government won't be stupid to go against a major world power like China..

Not forgetting there are about 1 million PRCs in SIngapore.
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Old 04-20-2014, 06:37 AM
 
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China simply doesn't want to give the US such leverage and I think that's understandable.
There doesn't have to be a war - the US excels at embargoes and other sanctions if things don't go its the way it likes.

If Singapore doesn't do everything the US says, that will be a different story.
Well the Strait of Malacca is more important for trade between Asia/The Far East and Europe, Africa.etc moreso than the States. But of course the Strait of Malacca isn't the only bottleneck even now.
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Old 04-20-2014, 06:43 AM
 
Location: singapore
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If Singapore was forced to have to make a choice to take sides between the US and China, it's anybody guess whom Singapore government will choose.

Singapore's relationship with US is good, but we value our relationship with China too, if not why the emphasis of learning Chinese as mother tougue ?
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