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Old 05-21-2014, 12:40 AM
 
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Only idiots believe China government supports or encourages ivory trade. In fact it has been illegal for many years.

Yes some people still do that. Don't forget it is a country with 1.3 billion people and many are dirty poor with no education.

 
Old 05-21-2014, 12:47 AM
 
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Also an indication China might have a little problem with superstition...

Chinese couples rush to get pregnant before dreaded Year of the Sheep - The Washington Post
I was born in the year of sheep. You guess what, there were as many students in my grade as others. Those articles are entertaining but don't take them too serious.
 
Old 05-21-2014, 07:40 AM
 
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What?
What was not clear about it?
 
Old 05-21-2014, 07:45 AM
 
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Only idiots believe China government supports or encourages ivory trade. In fact it has been illegal for many years.

Yes some people still do that. Don't forget it is a country with 1.3 billion people and many are dirty poor with no education.
In that case I am an idiot. It is pretty clear from the documentary that the government totally has its fingers in that whole ivory mess. Whether or not ivory trade is illegal is simply irrelevant because the Chinese government is a giant apparatus of crooks.
Corruption and theft are also illegal, yet everyone knows they are widespread in China. Some politicians have accumulated incredible sums and deposited them in Switzerland and on dubious islands.
 
Old 05-21-2014, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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In that case I am an idiot. It is pretty clear from the documentary that the government totally has its fingers in that whole ivory mess. Whether or not ivory trade is illegal is simply irrelevant because the Chinese government is a giant apparatus of crooks.
Corruption and theft are also illegal, yet everyone knows they are widespread in China. Some politicians have accumulated incredible sums and deposited them in Switzerland and on dubious islands.
Well, suppose that there are government officials who are facilitating the trade of ivory using their influence. That doesn't mean that the goverment itself sponsors it any more than a rogue county sherriff who allows drug runners across the US border is doing so with the federal government's blessing.

Look, I live in China and can tell you that ivory is minimal on peoples' list of items to pursue as a signifier of affluence. Most people, even the wealthy, would prefer to have more obvious signs of wealth such as designer Western apparel, gold/platinum/diamond jewelry, Apple products, expensive cars, etc. When given the option to buy an illegal piece of ivory at an insanely inflated price, most would simply opt to buy another Rolex or a 24kt gold-rimmed and hand-inlaid porcelain vase that wouldn't put them in any risk.

People of lower means who can merely aspire to do so would take a pair of real Jordans, an iPad, an apartment, an imported car, or plastic surgery before they considered a piece of ivory that costs six times what they make in a year, and *this* is what actually comprises 85% of China.
 
Old 05-21-2014, 08:43 AM
 
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I was born in the year of sheep. You guess what, there were as many students in my grade as others. Those articles are entertaining but don't take them too serious.
Well, that can also mean that during other years more students' applications are rejected. Given the number of Chinese people certainly all vacancies are filled for the sheep generations as well
 
Old 05-21-2014, 08:48 AM
 
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Well, that can also mean that during other years more students' applications are rejected. Given the number of Chinese people certainly all vacancies are filled for the sheep generations as well
I don't know that "applications" effect grade schoolers much.

The sheer magnitude of China's populace indicates that superstitions around zodiac signs don't drive its society.
 
Old 07-12-2014, 06:18 AM
 
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So, how can it be that East Asians, who on the one hand are known to be intelligent people, are also still such utterly ignorant, barbarian, and superstitious folks?
Easily, not all are educated and intelligent.

Most Asian college students would be highly against eating shark fin soup, for example. But, unfortunately, not everyone in Asia is educated to NOT do that. Particularly not the older generations.
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