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View Poll Results: Who is the one with the greater influence on Asia as a whole?
China 85 87.63%
India 6 6.19%
Both equally so. 6 6.19%
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:33 PM
 
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Both are considered the major civilizations of Asia besides the Middle Eastern region.

India and China urbanized very early on in history (they both had huge cities and populations before the West) and had huge populations which influenced their surrounding cultures: most of the subcontinent from Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Nepal and Bangladesh in the case of India, and nearby Korea, Vietnam and Japan in the case of China. Also, in Southeast Asia, their zones overlap.

Chinese influence has been pretty strong in Southeast Asia through direct migration of ethnic Chinese, but Indian influence was more distant.

Also, Chinese script influenced Japan, Korea and Vietnamese writing (before it became Romanized) while Indian scripts influenced much of Southeast Asian writing.

Religiously, India had a major influence by producing the Hindu-Buddhist Dharmic worldviews/religions which was dominant in much of Asia prior to the rise of Islam. India is also the only major region in the world outside the Middle East (which produced the Abrahamic faiths) to have produced and exported one of the major "world religions": Buddhism.
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Old 04-29-2014, 09:57 PM
 
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You just said everything I was going to say, and probably everyone else.

In short,

India has had the greatest influence in non-Islamic Asia in the religious sphere; while China has had the greatest impact in the socioeconomic sphere. Thus, most of Asia follows an Indian religion (those who choose to, anyway. Atheism/agnosticism is pretty big there, too) with a Chinese inspired (via Confucius/孔丘) mindset
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Old 04-30-2014, 01:01 AM
 
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It's hard to compare, as both influenced the rest of Asia in different ways. Of course their influences were of course huge and wide-ranging, with India Hinduism is practised by about 800 million, while over a billion are influenced even if they do not seriously practice Buddhism. China had significant genetic and linguistic influence over much of East and South-East Asia, India influenced the Burmese, Khmer, Sirajaya, Champa civilisations to name a few. China seemed to have influenced Japan, Korea, Manchuria, Mongolian, the Dai, Vietnam.etc.
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:04 AM
 
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Chinese culture has bigger influence in East Asia, India has bigger influence in South Asia. In Southeast Asia, I would say China has bigger influence due to the mass immigration. Anyway, countries that follow the CHinese culture tend to be much rich.
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:44 AM
 
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Anyone know to what extent East Asian languages other than the usual Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese are influenced by Chinese? In terms of vocabulary but also syntax, grammar?etc. I have no idea what % vocab of say Thai, Khmer, Mongolian, Tibetan, Burmese.etc is Chinese. I know virtually every language in the world has some Chinese loanwords, directly or not, for instance chai in India (cha in Mandarin, the English 'tea' comes from the Hokkien 'teh').
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Old 04-30-2014, 08:47 AM
 
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Historically, India, but economically modern-day China has greater influence.
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Old 04-30-2014, 08:52 AM
 
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Anyone know to what extent East Asian languages other than the usual Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese are influenced by Chinese? In terms of vocabulary but also syntax, grammar?etc. I have no idea what % vocab of say Thai, Khmer, Mongolian, Tibetan, Burmese.etc is Chinese. I know virtually every language in the world has some Chinese loanwords, directly or not, for instance chai in India (cha in Mandarin, the English 'tea' comes from the Hokkien 'teh').
Chinese has zero influence on the syntax of Japanese. The influence is all about vocabulary.
The grammar of Japanese and Chinese are completely different, probably with nothing in common.
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Old 04-30-2014, 09:04 AM
 
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Chinese has zero influence on the syntax of Japanese. The influence is all about vocabulary.
The grammar of Japanese and Chinese are completely different, probably with nothing in common.
Yes, their relationship is similar to English and French but even more distant.

What about Chinese and Thai?
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Old 04-30-2014, 09:48 AM
 
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Yes, their relationship is similar to English and French but even more distant.

What about Chinese and Thai?
English and French belongs to the Indian-European language family, which means their language structures have a lot of similarities (concepts such as gender, tense etc) but Chinese and Japanese don't even belong to the same language family.

as you can see, the Sino-tibetan languages don't include Japanese. They are a lot farther than between English and French

Sino-Tibetan languages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-30-2014, 01:58 PM
 
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Both. India is a leader of the NAM, non aligned movement. China is a rising economic superstar and for many countries who don't like the US, China serves a purpose.
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