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Old 05-07-2014, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Btw since gen2010 did bring up about something like Crimea voted for separation with Ukraine and European countries and US thought it was illegal blah blah,so if the same thing happens to Taiwan the westerners would also disagree and stuffs,I just want you remind you that there is something called Budapest memorandum,and you can google the rest of it.

Except that the same thing would never happen to Taiwan because we won't hold a referendum like that,if we do,it'd only be the day no longer has any influence around the world,that's pretty much impossible so the only thing we can do now is to keep the thing like the way it was,a de facto independence is fine for now.
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:24 PM
 
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^^^Seriously these comments should be spread to the the whole forums and let people have a good laugh.
I now truly understand the saying "When Chinese people mock on democracy,it's like eunuchs talking about the disadvantages of sex"
Show some dignity and respect.

You keep insulting other people and their country, which makes yourself look bad. Just let you know.
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Old 05-07-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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Btw since gen2010 did bring up about something like Crimea voted for separation with Ukraine and European countries and US thought it was illegal blah blah,so if the same thing happens to Taiwan the westerners would also disagree and stuffs,I just want you remind you that there is something called Budapest memorandum,and you can google the rest of it.

Except that the same thing would never happen to Taiwan because we won't hold a referendum like that,if we do,it'd only be the day no longer has any influence around the world,that's pretty much impossible so the only thing we can do now is to keep the thing like the way it was,a de facto independence is fine for now.
China will never let Taiwan be independent in years to see, period. If you are smart enough, you should try finding a way to live with the reality instead of keeping making troubles in vain.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:02 PM
 
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Show some dignity and respect.

You keep insulting other people and their country, which makes yourself look bad. Just let you know.


Come on. You and the PLA cyber squad need to practice what you preach. Greysholic made some excellent points.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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China will never let Taiwan be independent in years to see, period. If you are smart enough, you should try finding a way to live with the reality instead of keeping making troubles in vain.


What do you have to fear? If you and others are SO CONFIDENT that Taiwanese and Tibetans want to be a part of China, then have a open voter referendum that is transparent to determine so? Put your money where your mouth is!
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:34 PM
 
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What do you have to fear? If you and others are SO CONFIDENT that Taiwanese and Tibetans want to be a part of China, then have a open voter referendum that is transparent to determine so? Put your money where your mouth is!
Fine, but all Chinese must vote. lol

Different cultures have different concepts. For example, in China everyone is required to support his/her elderly parents by law. You can never just "get rid of them".

"Divide and conquer" shall never work.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:42 PM
 
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Come on. You and the PLA cyber squad need to practice what you preach. Greysholic made some excellent points.
PLA? Did you forget to see your doctor?

On this board, I have rarely seen any Chinese people insult other Asian countries, even when they disagree with others.

However a bunch of Taiwanese keep insulting China here every day. This has to be end. I will attack everyone who does that too, if I see it.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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NYC's subway has character. Sure it's a bit gritty, but it's over 100 years old. How old is Shanghai's subway? Barely 20 years old. NYC will always be my favourite city in the world.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:28 PM
 
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Bettafish...

why are you arguing with these people? The Tibetans are lucky they hadn't gone the way of the Sioux and the Cherokees, and the Taiwanese will figure out sooner or later that the only reason they are even a viable economy today is that they are part of the Chinese economic orbit. Given China's economic sophistication, there is no need to use the PLA to bring taiwan to its sense. Just shut off the economic spigot and the "taiwan miracle", or what's left of it, will end. There will be no independence for Xizhang, Taiwan or Xinjiang, period. Who cares what these powerless people think?

Taiwan, Xizhang and Xinjiang should not be China's focus, because they are already in the bag. What China should focus on is all of the South Sea, the East Sea, and the whole of Liu Qiu to the east. And all of Central Asia all the way to Iran to the west. China should touch Old Persia, because that was the extent of the Tang dynasty. Think about it.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Bettafish...

why are you arguing with these people? The Tibetans are lucky they hadn't gone the way of the Sioux and the Cherokees, and the Taiwanese will figure out sooner or later that the only reason they are even a viable economy today is that they are part of the Chinese economic orbit. Given China's economic sophistication, there is no need to use the PLA to bring taiwan to its sense. Just shut off the economic spigot and the "taiwan miracle", or what's left of it, will end. There will be no independence for Xizhang, Taiwan or Xinjiang, period. Who cares what these powerless people think?

Taiwan, Xizhang and Xinjiang should not be China's focus, because they are already in the bag. What China should focus on is all of the South Sea, the East Sea, and the whole of Liu Qiu to the east. And all of Central Asia all the way to Iran to the west. China should touch Old Persia, because that was the extent of the Tang dynasty. Think about it.
Seriously, you think the Chinese should start a Mongol/Alexander style campaign and push all the way to Iran?
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