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Old 05-13-2014, 03:00 PM
 
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I think the only people worrying about this crap are those who cannot fathom the US as anything but top dog. The Chinese government certainly do not want to be number 1. Only the US cares about these things. This German dude is an idiot with too much time on his hands.
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Old 05-13-2014, 03:29 PM
 
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None of this really matters unless you can reap the benefits of the opportunities in your country by being at least above average in intelligence. It's as miserable being a minimum wage burger flipper in the US as it is to work under slave conditions assembling iPhones in China. Actually I take that back, it's probably worse being a factory worker in China. So we still have the edge.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:08 PM
 
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The author is German but he is a Neo-Con who founded the magazine "The American Interest":

Josef Joffe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.amazon.com/The-Myth-Ameri.../dp/0871404494

Josef Joffe | Hoover Institution

Of course I am not attacking him for the article but just letting people know his biases. I will say one thing however about demographics that he mentions. I have noticed this in every single article written by Neocons but they never ever mention how America's demographics are changing rapidly and how the large Hispanic population in the US isn't being properly integrated into America. This will pose a problem in the future no matter how much people deny it. They just mention the population growth without mentioning the potential problems due to the lack of proper integration. Unless America begins a more aggressive integration program (such as a more aggressive Affirmative Action program), the large Hispanic population will not be properly integrated for decades to come.
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Old 05-13-2014, 06:33 PM
 
Location: US Empire, Pac NW
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of course China has debt, but it is a matter of 37% of GDP vs 106% in the US. As you can see, 37% is pretty low by international standard, similar to S Korea.
People focus way too much on foreign held or "external" debt. People forget how much debt resides within the country, or "internal" debt.

China's internal debt is approaching 100% of its GDP and is rising faster than the GDP itself. Thus, one could argue that given its position it is in danger of an asset price bubble and is no better off than the USA in terms of debt. Given stories on ghost cities, construction to boost GDP, etc., it is not surprising that as China transitions to a more consumer model of economy, there will be issues. See Japan.
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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'so yesterday?' Did a Valley girl write this piece?
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:26 PM
 
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^Love the irony lol
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:27 PM
 
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not that I disagree with you on these, but good education, technology and enterpreneurialship don't guarantee such prominence. Many countries actually have these: Germany, Japan for example. The US has a lot of natural advantage.

the US dominance was established largely by the second war - while Europe and Japan suffered tremendously, the US actually gained substantially from it.

The US unlike Asian and European powers, doesn't have hostile neighbors and therefore didn't have to go to war with any countries (at least not as often as others). Additionally, its vast land and rich resources didn't hurt (Japan has no resources).

If you really look at other big countries around the world, none has the advantage the US does. China for example has too little resources and way too many hostile neighbors. Canada has the land and resource but its location and climate prevent it from becoming a big power.
The US has the advantage because it has an entrepreneurial environment, natural resources, and no hostile neighbors. Mostly importantly, it has the free exchange of information. It doesn't censor google...yet. The education doesn't matter. May be the universities but public education is not uniform. Brain drain from foreign countries keeps it #1.

Red China is surrounded by hostile neighbors because its a bully. Its economic growth is slowing and the red generals are getting arrogant and starting trouble with or without the party's permission.

Canada should formally join the US to make use of its vast resources. Think about it, we could be bigger than russia! Having a monarchy is so 20th century.
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Old 05-13-2014, 07:33 PM
 
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I think the only people worrying about this crap are those who cannot fathom the US as anything but top dog. The Chinese government certainly do not want to be number 1. Only the US cares about these things. This German dude is an idiot with too much time on his hands.
That is because the the CCP is following deng Xiaoping 24 character stratgey:

Observe calmly; secure our position; cope with affairs calmly; hide our capacities and bide our time; be good at maintaining a low profile; and never claim leadership

The red dragon is simply waiting. Red China of course wants to be #1. The very character ,"chong", means middle, center. China is supposed to be the center of the world. Everyone else is a barbarian....All must pay tribute to the son of heaven...
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Old 05-13-2014, 10:33 PM
 
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I think the only people worrying about this crap are those who cannot fathom the US as anything but top dog. The Chinese government certainly do not want to be number 1. Only the US cares about these things. This German dude is an idiot with too much time on his hands.

A lot sound bites came from a person who claims that he/she is not Chinese?
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Old 05-13-2014, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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That is because the the CCP is following deng Xiaoping 24 character stratgey:

Observe calmly; secure our position; cope with affairs calmly; hide our capacities and bide our time; be good at maintaining a low profile; and never claim leadership

The red dragon is simply waiting. Red China of course wants to be #1. The very character ,"chong", means middle, center. China is supposed to be the center of the world. Everyone else is a barbarian....All must pay tribute to the son of heaven...

I have a close Chinese friend. She shares with me an interesting observation which it is kind of stick to me over the years:

The Chinese has a weakness in group collaboration comparing to the Japanese (and now Koreans). Collective strength is their weakness that is why Japanese dominated them over the last centuries.

She said individually a Chinease can be a proud dragon (smart and articulate), but you put a group of Chinese together in a group to share ideas, they are a bunch of worms....(back stabbings, domineering, narcissistic traits would show up...)..
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