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Old 05-22-2014, 08:37 AM
 
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I remember reading an article where a Gujarati described his people by saying, "Some men fight with swords. We fight with our minds." Awesome quote and awesome businessmen it sounds like.

My main doubts were hearing this Modi guy was a socialist, but hopefully he is business minded.



Never heard the quote but it describes their acumen best. It's in their blood. I mean wherever they have gone in the world, they have succeeded greatly in business. As for Modi being a socialist.....not at all. He is very pro business/capitalist. Congress, the poilitical party, was largely responisble for that socialist economy prior to 1991. The vast improvements ujurat has seen is based of capitalism and his ability to attract business.
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Old 05-22-2014, 02:24 PM
 
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India has invited the Pakistani PM to Modi's inauguration.

BBC News - Narendra Modi inauguration: Pakistan PM Sharif invited

It will be fairly historic if Sharif accepts the invitation.

Improved Indo-Pakistani relations is a win-win situation for all. It will strengthen Pakistani civilian leadership/democracy, improve India's security situation when it comes to terrorism, and hopefully lead to more bilateral trade which will help improve both nations' economies.

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Old 05-22-2014, 04:41 PM
 
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Never heard the quote but it describes their acumen best. It's in their blood. I mean wherever they have gone in the world, they have succeeded greatly in business. As for Modi being a socialist.....not at all. He is very pro business/capitalist. Congress, the poilitical party, was largely responisble for that socialist economy prior to 1991. The vast improvements ujurat has seen is based of capitalism and his ability to attract business.
Sounds like a great fellow, and India should be on the way to an even brighter future.
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Old 05-23-2014, 08:25 AM
 
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India has invited the Pakistani PM to Modi's inauguration.

BBC News - Narendra Modi inauguration: Pakistan PM Sharif invited

It will be fairly historic if Sharif accepts the invitation.

Improved Indo-Pakistani relations is a win-win situation for all. It will strengthen Pakistani civilian leadership/democracy, improve India's security situation when it comes to terrorism, and hopefully lead to more bilateral trade which will help improve both nations' economies.


Its never going to happen. The civilian gov't in Pakistan has no real control. The power lies with the military/ISI. Sad but true.
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Old 05-24-2014, 08:31 AM
 
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Its never going to happen. The civilian gov't in Pakistan has no real control. The power lies with the military/ISI. Sad but true.
There is too much opportunity cost to not engage the Pakistani civilian leadership in peace efforts. The peace dividends that would result from a diplomatic breakthrough would be huge for both countries. However, it's still in India's best interest to develop a more robust intelligence apparatus to help nullify the impact of the Pakistani military, ISI, and terrorists/militants on Indian security. The ability for the stakeholders in strained Indo-Pakistani have to continue to influence relations(short of a military coup) have to be negated as much as possible through efforts for peace/engaging Pakistan's civilian leadership and taking a more active approach to completely stymy the efforts of the jihadist-military complex.

Also, Sharif has accepted the invitation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...8a7_story.html

I have to applaud Nawaz Sharif for his decision, it does take a certain amount of political courage to do this as he's already been ousted by the military once before.

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Old 05-24-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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There is too much opportunity cost to not engage the Pakistani civilian leadership in peace efforts. The peace dividends that would result from a diplomatic breakthrough would be huge for both countries. However, it's still in India's best interest to develop a more robust intelligence apparatus to help nullify the impact of the Pakistani military, ISI, and terrorists/militants on Indian security. The ability for the stakeholders in strained Indo-Pakistani have to continue to influence relations(short of a military coup) have to be negated as much as possible through efforts for peace/engaging Pakistan's civilian leadership and taking a more active approach to completely stymy the efforts of the jihadist-military complex.

Also, Sharif has accepted the invitation.

Pakistan’s Nawaz Sharif to attend Narendra Modi’s swearing-in - The Washington Post

I have to applaud Nawaz Sharif for his decision, it does take a certain amount of political courage to do this as he's already been ousted by the military once before.

Like I said its all a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Civilain leadership in Pakistan only exists in paper. The real power lie with the military. Do you realize the day before Sharif accepted the offer, the Indian consulate in Afghanistan was attacked? Major players in Pakistan will not allow it to happen. Sharif will be assassinated if if he continues on this road. It's not a threat, it's a guarantee.
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Old 05-24-2014, 09:34 AM
 
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Like I said its all a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Civilain leadership in Pakistan only exists in paper. The real power lie with the military. Do you realize the day before Sharif accepted the offer, the Indian consulate in Afghanistan was attacked? Major players in Pakistan will not allow it to happen. Sharif will be assassinated if if he continues on this road. It's not a threat, it's a guarantee.
This could very well be the case, but the point remains. Nawaz Sharif seems to be a willing participant in improving relations, and such an opportunity shouldn't be passed up.
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Old 05-26-2014, 09:21 AM
 
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This could very well be the case, but the point remains. Nawaz Sharif seems to be a willing participant in improving relations, and such an opportunity shouldn't be passed up.


I agree its an opportunity that shouldn't be passed up but looking back in history, Sharif was PM when Kargil took place! If you go look back at all PM's in Pakistan, they have all reached out while playing a double game. Just food for thought. My issue is that India opening up its market is more beneficial for Pakistan than it is for India. If anything, this will be an opportunity for them to exploit while our guard is down. However, given the change in leadership in India, it will be interesting to see what is brought to the table. None of us in South or Northeast give a damn about Pakistan. We don't forget. North Indians seem to have this obsession with making peace with Pakistan while Indians civilians are constantly attacked. I understand in the long term, peace should always be the goal for stability. However, do you really think its possible given China's support and covert assistance of Pakistan?
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Old 07-28-2014, 04:18 PM
 
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So it's a couple of months in--what are people's thoughts on him now?

I think it'd be interesting to catalogue how people's perceptions of him change over a period of time. Maybe check in every few months with thoughts on Modi?
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Old 07-28-2014, 06:12 PM
 
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So it's a couple of months in--what are people's thoughts on him now?
Him and his party passed up the opportunity to immediately implement reforms for the sake of politicking. They left most subsidies in place, and they look like they aren't going to open up multi-brand retail to FDI in the near term (which would go a long way in reducing market inefficiencies for India's food supply; food prices are the primary driver of inflation in India).

So far, the BJP did go forward with the unpopular move of raising railway fares to make Indian Railways financially solvent, and Modi himself has went about instilling a new work culture in the bureaucracy. 12 hour work days and regular progress briefings (accountability) are the new norm for bureaucrats. Modi has also made headway in improving relations with Pakisan, and he is considered a dynamic and decisive leader by his international peers.

It'll take 2-3 years before one can give the BJP parliament an objective report card. Their first budget wasn't as bold as some had wished, and it'll take a couple of years to see if Modi and the BJP parliament can effectively implement their vision. It looks like the BJP has opted for incremental change rather than upturning everything overnight.

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