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Old 05-19-2014, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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There has been news from Vietnam about riots against Chinese residents of that nation.

Chinese ships evacuate workers after Vietnam riots | Boston Herald

One reason given is that Chinese interests have drilled for oil in waters claimed by Vietnam.

Tensions mount in South China Sea dispute over Chinese oil drilling | Fox News

The ethnic Chinese in Southeast Asia have not always been welcome by their host nations. There have historically been a number of violent incidents committed against them. One reason is said to be jealousy because the ethnic Chinese have often been more financially successful than the ethnic majority in those nations.

BBC News | Analysis | Indonesia: Why ethnic Chinese are afraid

Hoa people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Did the anti-Chinese resentment include the ethnic Hoa, or Chinese Vietnamese? Because they are a different group from the recent Chinese workers, having lived in and integrated into Vietnamese society.

The second article speaks mostly of Chinese Indonesians, who have largely integrated, except in terms of mostly not being Muslim and often being overrepresented among the wealthy.

One needs to make a distinction between the two groups.
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Old 05-19-2014, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Let's just say that Taiwanese were pathetic and helpless in this incident.
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Old 05-19-2014, 09:17 AM
 
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Did the anti-Chinese resentment include the ethnic Hoa, or Chinese Vietnamese? Because they are a different group from the recent Chinese workers, having lived in and integrated into Vietnamese society.

The second article speaks mostly of Chinese Indonesians, who have largely integrated, except in terms of mostly not being Muslim and often being overrepresented among the wealthy.

One needs to make a distinction between the two groups.
The most recent rioting in Vietnam was against Chinese workers. Sorry.
I started out commenting on that and moved on to the situation of ethnic Chinese in SE Asia.
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Old 05-20-2014, 04:53 AM
 
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Default About the Chinese...

Go get them.
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Old 05-20-2014, 08:02 AM
 
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The rioters, who I think are idiots, targeted the Chinese most of whom came over from mainland China to manage Taiwanese companies. The Hoa (Vietnamese Chinese) were not targeted. The Hoa were persecuted after the end of the Vietnam war mainly because they were the merchant class (against communism) and only partly because they were Chinese. It was not unlike Mao's campaign against landlords and wealthy Chinese in China. My Vietnamese family, also weathy back then were also ruthlessly persecuted so we escaped to the US. 30% of overseas Vietnamese are Hoa people and there is absolutely no tension among us.
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Old 05-20-2014, 08:13 AM
 
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Seriously almost every company attacked was from Taiwan,and the best idea our moronic foreign minister came up with was to send some stickers to the Taiwanese there and told them to paste the stickers on the wall.

^Like it'd help.

No matter who manipulated or were behind the riots or why the riots took place in the first place,the coping of our moronic government staffs was just as pathetic as it could get.The protection of the safety of Taiwanese living or working in Vietnam is not something that could only be done through official relation between the two nations.Some effective actions like sending official cars to the industrial area then delivered the Taiwanese people back to safer places(like what Japanese did) are not that difficult.However our representatives there were either not in Vietnam at the moment or just completely retarded.

Fortunately nobody has died(yet),well yes there have been some casualties,but they were all Chinese.Poor fellows died for their mother land's bully towards their neighbours.
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:08 AM
 
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"....their mother land's bully towards their neighbours.'

So, the Chinese are bullies because they sent a $1 billion oil platform into the sea that they claimed historically and occupied/adminsitered since 1974?

On the other hand, if people want to call China a bully, I suppose it could be worse. The US has been called a bully since the war with Mexico in the 1840's.
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Old 05-20-2014, 11:55 AM
 
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What do you think if Japan drill near Diaoyu island? They controlled it way before 1974. I think Diaoyu belongs to China and was taken by force from Japan. At the end of the day it's whoever more powerful will take it, there is no justice in this world. Just like Vietnam took a lot of lands from Cambodia.

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"....their mother land's bully towards their neighbours.'

So, the Chinese are bullies because they sent a $1 billion oil platform into the sea that they claimed historically and occupied/adminsitered since 1974?

On the other hand, if people want to call China a bully, I suppose it could be worse. The US has been called a bully since the war with Mexico in the 1840's.
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Old 05-20-2014, 12:09 PM
 
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I heard the Chinese military is on the border of Vietnam. Could something very serious happen?
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