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Old 05-22-2014, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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it is hardly likely.
Mao had almost absolute authority at that time. Nothing can happen without its explicit or implicit permission. All the atrocity should be attributed to him.
I read: his sadistic wife, Jiang Qing, was the ears, eyes, nose of Mao! Why is the PBT (Power Behind the Throne) always overlooked, vastly underestimated by readers, voters!!!

Sheesh! Even Obama has been heard to refer to his wife as The Boss! President Truman would say: "Let me pass this by the Boss first!" And Presidentress Nancy Reagan?

And the blame will forever be leveled at the man in charge!
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Old 05-23-2014, 07:59 AM
 
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Most young people in China are about as interested in that period as young Americans are about the 60's; i.e., very little.
This.

And do you think young japanese people study vigorously about WW2? I doubt it
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Old 05-26-2014, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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it was so in the beginning, until the demonstrators were used by others with particular agendas.
The Chinese government cherishes stability than anything else, and they wouldn't just go out killing student demonstrators sitting quietly on the streets.

I was too young too know everything but many forces were in play at that time, although likely usually, west media likes to describle it as a simple "CCP kills peaceful demonstrators" story, which is hardly the whole truth.

Like I said, I believe the government did the least worst thing for the country at that time. The West obviously didn't resist insitigating just like what they did to Ukraine in their imaginart ideological war. Fortunately the central government had the gut to make a quick decision and put the country on the right track. How the world sees it is of less importance although it will haunt for a very long time. In the end, it is the Chinese people who have to live in China, not those foreigners who cry democracy for China.
I'd love to know what those specific agendas and the actual truth were.I mean from what you've heard.
We have no idea since western media was probably unable to reach the details.
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Old 05-26-2014, 11:48 AM
 
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I read: his sadistic wife, Jiang Qing, was the ears, eyes, nose of Mao! Why is the PBT (Power Behind the Throne) always overlooked, vastly underestimated by readers, voters!!!

Sheesh! Even Obama has been heard to refer to his wife as The Boss! President Truman would say: "Let me pass this by the Boss first!" And Presidentress Nancy Reagan?

And the blame will forever be leveled at the man in charge!
Jiang Qing was nothing but Mao's dogs. She is only capable of doing what Mao wants to be done.
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Old 05-28-2014, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Jiang Qing was nothing but Mao's dogs. She is only capable of doing what Mao wants to be done.
I would tend to think you have this twisted around backwards!
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