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Old 05-26-2014, 03:59 PM
 
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China executes more people per year, but the US has a higher raw/real number of people in prison. Death penalties are handed down for non capital offenses because Chinese law views them as being capital offenses: for example, as far as they're concerned, drug dealers are directly responsible for supplying drugs that take peoples' lives. The people behind the tainted baby formula scandal were executed. The head engineer and land developer responsible for the building that fell over was executed because the accident killed a worker and would have killed hundreds if the building had been occupied.

In the US, death sentences are handed down with unnerving inequality over race, gender, and affluence. A 19 hear old hood rat who was drunk and stabbed another drunk hood rat in a fit of rage could fry while a middle-aged suburban mom who murders her children one by one gets life.

But, all this has nothing to.do with the aggressive militarization of municipal police forces in the US and the overtly-hostile way it treats its citizens, with people regularly being shot with assault weapons in botched drug raids, beaten severely or tazed while showing no indication of hostility, etc. The police here in China are quite placid: say you get drunk and noisy on the street, you get escorted back home. In the US, that's a trip to the station to be booked, then bail, citation, court hearing, and a blot on your public record. And yet, public drunkenness is less of a problem here.

So while executions are certainly an issue in China, they're also an issue in the US. To say that China is the "worst nation on earth" because of an issue that also dogs America, I thonk is unfair.
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In the US, death sentences are handed down with unnerving inequality over race, gender, and affluence. A 19 hear old hood rat who was drunk and stabbed another drunk hood rat in a fit of rage could fry while a middle-aged suburban mom who murders her children one by one gets life.
The majority of homicides in the U.S are drug related/gang related. Homicides involving mothers killing their own children are a drop in the bucket in America's homicide statistics.

 
Old 05-26-2014, 04:09 PM
 
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China executes more people per year, but the US has a higher raw/real number of people in prison. Death penalties are handed down for non capital offenses because Chinese law views them as being capital offenses: for example, as far as they're concerned, drug dealers are directly responsible for supplying drugs that take peoples' lives. The people behind the tainted baby formula scandal were executed. The head engineer and land developer responsible for the building that fell over was executed because the accident killed a worker and would have killed hundreds if the building had been occupied.

In the US, death sentences are handed down with unnerving inequality over race, gender, and affluence. A 19 hear old hood rat who was drunk and stabbed another drunk hood rat in a fit of rage could fry while a middle-aged suburban mom who murders her children one by one gets life.

But, all this has nothing to.do with the aggressive militarization of municipal police forces in the US and the overtly-hostile way it treats its citizens, with people regularly being shot with assault weapons in botched drug raids, beaten severely or tazed while showing no indication of hostility, etc. The police here in China are quite placid: say you get drunk and noisy on the street, you get escorted back home. In the US, that's a trip to the station to be booked, then bail, citation, court hearing, and a blot on your public record. And yet, public drunkenness is less of a problem here.

So while executions are certainly an issue in China, they're also an issue in the US. To say that China is the "worst nation on earth" because of an issue that also dogs America, I thonk is unfair.
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But, all this has nothing to.do with the aggressive militarization of municipal police forces in the US and the overtly-hostile way it treats its citizens, with people regularly being shot with assault weapons in botched drug raids, beaten severely or tazed while showing no indication of hostility, etc.
You mean overtly hostile way the U.S treats its drug dealers, not overtly hostile way it treats its citizens. Because last time I checked the vast majority of American citizens do not sell drugs to put a roof over their head and food on their table.

So the vast majority of American citizens will never know what it is like to be shot with assault weapons in drug raids because most Americans are not part of that gangsta **** thug life lifestyle.
 
Old 05-26-2014, 04:14 PM
 
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You are so very right about that!

US Police Have Killed Over 5,000 Civilians Since 9/11

Though the U.S. government does not have a database collecting information about the total number of police involved shootings each year, itís estimated that between 500 and 1,000 Americans are killed by police officers each year. Since 9/11, about 5,000 Americans have been killed by U.S. police officers, which is almost equivalent to the number of U.S. soldiers who have been killed in the line of duty in Iraq.
Among Americans who are killed by police officers each year in the U.S, what did most of them do for a living ? Were most of them dentists or chiropractors for example ? Nope, the vast majority of them were living the gangsta lifestyle.

I personally do not know anybody who has ever been murdered by the police. Than again everybody I know makes a living the legal way.

If you personally know a lot of people who have been murdered by the police, what does that say about the circle of friends you hang out with ?
 
Old 05-26-2014, 06:31 PM
 
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I don't plan on going to mainland China for the next decade or two.... But the worst country on Earth for executing drug traffickers? You made it seem like they'll execute you for selling children expired ice cream. Both Singapore, Indonesia and Malaysia will execute you for the same thing so you can add those to the list of "worst countries on Earth".
 
Old 03-06-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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China is the worst place on earth. I've lived there for 2 years due to my work - and travelled to the major cities and the medium sized ones. After visiting over 30 major countries later there is little doubt left in my mind that China is in fact, the worst. It shocks me that China is even in the same sentence as the other major countries on earth. China, Africa, India these countries fit together in terms of every aspect of quality of living. The Chinese should be embarrassed, their culture is literally resembling of cockroaches. I recall being in business meetings and having to listen to those executives farting, coughing, smoking, and other rude acts while pretending nothing is going on.

Those Chinese living abroad are so very happy to be doing so. And I get that, they worked to be able to leave. Good for them, escape from China. Ps be sure to leave your disgusting culture behind.
 
Old 03-06-2016, 08:22 PM
 
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I don't plan on going to mainland China for the next decade or two.... But the worst country on Earth for executing drug traffickers? You made it seem like they'll execute you for selling children expired ice cream. Both Singapore, Indonesia and Malaysia will execute you for the same thing so you can add those to the list of "worst countries on Earth".
Egg - it's the worst country on earth for a variety of reasons too long to list. While Africa and India I found less developed their culture is superior as China is just China and always will be. Best case for their citizens is to leave and never look back, which is their unspoken goal.
 
Old 03-06-2016, 08:50 PM
 
Location: No. Virginia, USA
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lots of reasons to conclude China is among the worst countries in the world (pollution chief among them), but executing drug traffickers isn't one of them.
Incidentally, because of its huge population China has the most of just about everything
 
Old 03-06-2016, 09:00 PM
 
Location: No. Virginia, USA
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I don't plan on going to mainland China for the next decade or two.... But the worst country on Earth for executing drug traffickers? You made it seem like they'll execute you for selling children expired ice cream. Both Singapore, Indonesia and Malaysia will execute you for the same thing so you can add those to the list of "worst countries on Earth".
True. In Malaysia there are big signs at the border that say "Death to Drug Traffickers." You can't say you're not on notice.
 
Old 03-06-2016, 09:47 PM
 
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China is the worst place on earth. I've lived there for 2 years due to my work - and travelled to the major cities and the medium sized ones. After visiting over 30 major countries later there is little doubt left in my mind that China is in fact, the worst. It shocks me that China is even in the same sentence as the other major countries on earth. China, Africa, India these countries fit together in terms of every aspect of quality of living. The Chinese should be embarrassed, their culture is literally resembling of cockroaches. I recall being in business meetings and having to listen to those executives farting, coughing, smoking, and other rude acts while pretending nothing is going on.

Those Chinese living abroad are so very happy to be doing so. And I get that, they worked to be able to leave. Good for them, escape from China. Ps be sure to leave your disgusting culture behind.
2 years? You just entered the phase of deep culture shock.
Stay there for two more years and you will be fine, especially if you learn some Chinese.
 
Old 03-07-2016, 01:02 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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2 years has been enough for me - leaving at end of school year for other pastures. Kids are nice, it's safe, it's a good place to save money. But little to do - a sense of xenophobia, and having to deal with vpn and blocked media have been major issues - aside from smoking, spitting, and foul air. I would rather have a few pot smokers than millions of chain smokers. Maybe if I were one of those old not so looking white fellas with a chinese wife/girlfriend here i'd stick around a bit longer.
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