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View Poll Results: Would you rather live and work in HONG KONG or in SINGAPORE?
Hong Kong 55 62.50%
Singapore 33 37.50%
Voters: 88. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-01-2014, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Indonesia now exports many workers who work in several important Bid.such as doctor , managers, nurses etc to some foreign country and I heard that the delivery of medical personnel from Indonesia to Japan is quite high.
In Japan? I knew quite a few in the Filipino community, and Japan has a very rigid requirement set for foreign nurses, one of the biggest hurdles is a demand for a very high fluency of Japanese.

I pretty much never met a foreign nurse in Japan. I did meet Filipinos though, and no matter how well they were trained as nurses, the Japanese usually placed them in nursing homes for low-paid work. (On that same note, Japan pays abysmally low for nurses and doctors as well - even though most are always Japanese).

My personal feeling is that for Filipinos/Indonesians, Japan was kind of off their radar. I could see well-qualified Indonesians going to Canada, USA, Australia, Hong Kong, Singapore, The Middle East, but I'd think Japan would be quite low on the list due to the many restrictions.

Granted Filipinos do not equal Indonesians. But, they seem to have similar experiences when they work abroad in various countries.
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Old 08-01-2014, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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In Japan? I knew quite a few in the Filipino community, and Japan has a very rigid requirement set for foreign nurses, one of the biggest hurdles is a demand for a very high fluency of Japanese.

I pretty much never met a foreign nurse in Japan. I did meet Filipinos though, and no matter how well they were trained as nurses, the Japanese usually placed them in nursing homes for low-paid work. (On that same note, Japan pays abysmally low for nurses and doctors as well - even though most are always Japanese).

My personal feeling is that for Filipinos/Indonesians, Japan was kind of off their radar. I could see well-qualified Indonesians going to Canada, USA, Australia, Hong Kong, Singapore, The Middle East, but I'd think Japan would be quite low on the list due to the many restrictions.

Granted Filipinos do not equal Indonesians. But, they seem to have similar experiences when they work abroad in various countries.
Japan was the first few major investor to Indonesia, many Japanese companies are well established here and occasionally send locals to work there. There is 25k Indonesian in Japan as of now working legally with additional 5k illegal Indondonesians, mostly working as professional, not maids.

There is also quiet number of records of Japanese getting married with Indonesians.

Indonesians in Japan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-01-2014, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Japan was the first few major investor to Indonesia, many Japanese companies are well established here and occasionally send locals to work there. There is 25k Indonesian in Japan as of now working legally with additional 5k illegal Indondonesians, mostly working as professional, not maids.

There is also quiet number of records of Japanese getting married with Indonesians.

Indonesians in Japan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Japan doesn't hire foreign maids. (That's Hong Kong & Singapore & The Middle East that does that).

I'm basically questioning the Indonesian nurses.

Professionals is something completely different, and I'm not questioning that. I was simply questioning the "Medical Personnel' if that implies nurses.
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Old 08-01-2014, 03:45 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Between the two, HK. Singapore has a great living standard, but I found it boring compared to HK.
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Old 08-02-2014, 01:43 AM
 
Location: singapore
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I've stayed in Singapore for 1 week and know people that have been/live there,
All of them incl. myself went in with high expectations but all thought it was disappointing.
I don't know 1 single person who went on holiday in Singapore and wanted to go back asap.
No big deal.. I went London years ago with high expectations and was disappointed too.

Just part and parcel of life .. Deal with it..
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Old 08-02-2014, 02:25 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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I expected Singapore to be like a mix of a ultra clean Manhattan (a dense compact 24h city with huge skyline) and a busier Beverly Hills (big villas with palm trees along the road), all that surrounded by white sand beaches.
I felt it came closer to a city like Vegas/Macau but more family-friendly.
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:03 AM
 
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Singapore is much more boring and strict(according to Singaporeans) to both Westerners and Asians.
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Between the two, HK. Singapore has a great living standard, but I found it boring compared to HK.
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:10 AM
 
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japan has its own citizens, Japanese mainly, not the ethnic minorities, doing the lower paid jobs in Japan. An average local worker in Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, Macau, HK, Shanghai, Beijing, Tianjin, Hangzhou..., UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Taiwan and South Korea has better real income than a Japanese doing the lower paid jobs in Japan. Because those countries or cities hire a lot of foreigners or outsiders from poorer regions to do the lower paid jobs, the result is most locals become middle class.
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Japan doesn't hire foreign maids.
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:17 AM
 
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HK is located closer to the big and important economies of China, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan and is a bigger financial center and entertainment hub than Singapore. Population and among of wealth and capital of NE Asia is much larger than SE Asia.
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I'm not very knowledgeable about either, but Singapore looks kind of faceless and plain for my tastes. I would prefer Hong Kong for the scenery and food alone, and I am perfectly aware about how much people rave about Singapore after going, but I dunno. Seems too businessy for me.
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Old 08-04-2014, 09:25 PM
 
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Hmmm. why so many chose HK over SG?

SG is less dense than HK
Residents in SG speak more English than HK
SG is much cleaner than HK...Is it the residents or what?
SG is multicultural country...
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