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Old 08-06-2014, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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I think a person would have to be Indian, to see and experience Mumbai's kaleidoscope of lingual, religious, and general cultural diversity.

But if a person isn't from India, than everyone just looks and acts Indian to the outsider.

I visited and loved Mumbai. I did see some tourists around, just like every city has tourists. But for the most part, everyone and everything seemed very 'Indian' to me. I did see an immense diversity of food though, and I recognized that all of these amazing Indian restaurants were a reflect of the massive diversity of the Indian people themselves.

But, all of that diversity is within the same country, and from an outsider perspective, it all still looks and feels 'very Indian' than anything else.
Precisely my point :P that's why i don't see Mumbai as a diverse place.

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I guess that's why the OP put Mumbai, Jakarta, and Manila on their Top 10 List.

Honestly speaking, with ALL of ASIA pretty much having a nearly non-existent 'Immigrant Nation' policy, that's about as diverse as they can get.

I have two kids born in Asia. I hate when people ask me, "OH, does that mean they have X Passport and Nationality for being born in Asian Country X?" The answer is always 'no'.

In pretty much every country in Asia, there are blue eyed blond people somewhere in them, that were born and raised in Asian country X. But every single local who encounters will ASSUME that person is a tourist who just stepped into their country yesterday.

Until one of the countries in Asia, steps up and says 'we're taking immigrants, move to Country X, and you can get land rights, voting rights, citizenship rights, on and on', than none of these countries will ever really be multicultural.

The only one that kind of does that is Singapore. Malaysia is kinda sorta like that, mostly by default than anything else though, and it's tenuous at best.
The OP didn't put Jakarta on the list, but to be honest he should've considering he puts Mumbai and Manila on the list, compared to Manila especially, Jakarta is wayy more diverse considering the hundreds of ethnic we have.

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Name five cities in Asia that are more multicultural than Mumbai.
HK, Singapore, KL, Shanghai, Bangkok

I rate city as diverse considering their ethnic groups and also the number of expat/immigrants/tourist, that gives it the multicultural vibe.

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Old 08-06-2014, 11:44 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Interesting candidates might be some Israeli cities. While they are majority Jewish, that Jewish-ness encompasses a pretty wide swath of people from many different parts of Europe, Central Asia, the Middle East, North Africa, Ethiopia, and random communities from elsewhere.
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:13 AM
 
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Yes only if you include Malaysians but Bangkok and Hong Kong have a lot more international tourists.
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As Davy has mentioned, most of the tourists are Malaysian either visiting or working there from Johor Bahru, other than that Indonesian also are well presented there lol but it does have quiet a number of international tourists but not to the level of HK or Bangkok.

I did put Singapore on the list of multicultural society though, and i put Bangkok in tourist visit category.



To me it didn't have any multicultural senses, just like Manila, since most of the people are just "Indian" and the fact that it didn't have the international vibe.

Tourism in Singapore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's not true at all. If you look at the breakup of tourists, you can see how evenly spread it is. The largest group is from Indonesia, not, Malaysia.

In contrast, among the top 15 China absolutely dwarfs the rest in visitor numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism..._nationalities
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:16 AM
 
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I guess that's why the OP put Mumbai, Jakarta, and Manila on their Top 10 List.

Honestly speaking, with ALL of ASIA pretty much having a nearly non-existent 'Immigrant Nation' policy, that's about as diverse as they can get.

I have two kids born in Asia. I hate when people ask me, "OH, does that mean they have X Passport and Nationality for being born in Asian Country X?" The answer is always 'no'.

In pretty much every country in Asia, there are blue eyed blond people somewhere in them, that were born and raised in Asian country X. But every single local who encounters will ASSUME that person is a tourist who just stepped into their country yesterday.

Until one of the countries in Asia, steps up and says 'we're taking immigrants, move to Country X, and you can get land rights, voting rights, citizenship rights, on and on', than none of these countries will ever really be multicultural.

The only one that kind of does that is Singapore. Malaysia is kinda sorta like that, mostly by default than anything else though, and it's tenuous at best.
Dubai might not allow foreigners to have citizenship (not sure if they do), but it feels more like a mini world than somewhere in Arabia. Emiratis make up only 15%, the rest being a diverse mix from all over the world, bringing their culture.etc.
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Old 08-07-2014, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Dubai might not allow foreigners to have citizenship (not sure if they do), but it feels more like a mini world than somewhere in Arabia. Emiratis make up only 15%, the rest being a diverse mix from all over the world, bringing their culture.etc.
Dubai does NOT allow foreigners to have citizenship. You can be deported at any time. Just for any reason whatsoever. For example, if your employer fires you, you have to leave the country within 24 hours.

Incidentally, I quite like that 'multicultural' feel or 'cosmopolitan' feel of Dubai as well...

But, it's not a true multicultural society.
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Old 08-07-2014, 07:03 AM
 
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Dubai does NOT allow foreigners to have citizenship. You can be deported at any time. Just for any reason whatsoever. For example, if your employer fires you, you have to leave the country within 24 hours.

Incidentally, I quite like that 'multicultural' feel or 'cosmopolitan' feel of Dubai as well...

But, it's not a true multicultural society.
Wow, 24 hours? That's pretty strict lol.

Yeah it's funny you see more women wearing the hijab in Southwestern Sydney than in Dubai (not sure about Abu Dhabi).
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:23 PM
 
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I guess that's why the OP put Mumbai, Jakarta, and Manila on their Top 10 List.

Honestly speaking, with ALL of ASIA pretty much having a nearly non-existent 'Immigrant Nation' policy, that's about as diverse as they can get.

I have two kids born in Asia. I hate when people ask me, "OH, does that mean they have X Passport and Nationality for being born in Asian Country X?" The answer is always 'no'.

In pretty much every country in Asia, there are blue eyed blond people somewhere in them, that were born and raised in Asian country X. But every single local who encounters will ASSUME that person is a tourist who just stepped into their country yesterday.

Until one of the countries in Asia, steps up and says 'we're taking immigrants, move to Country X, and you can get land rights, voting rights, citizenship rights, on and on', than none of these countries will ever really be multicultural.

The only one that kind of does that is Singapore. Malaysia is kinda sorta like that, mostly by default than anything else though, and it's tenuous at best.

Bahrain has allowed foreigners to own land and get citizenship and even made a whole Island targeted at them in Amwaj

Amwaj Islands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-10-2014, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Macao
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Bahrain has allowed foreigners to own land and get citizenship and even made a whole Island targeted at them in Amwaj

Amwaj Islands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Interesting. But, as a foreigner myself, I can't personally imagine settling down roots in Bahrain.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:07 AM
 
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Interesting. But, as a foreigner myself, I can't personally imagine settling down roots in Bahrain.

But many have. Ethnic Bahraini's are the minority, on top of citizens themselves being a minority. I think less than have of the people here are citizens, and only about a third are ethnic Bahraini. Lots of ex-pats, let alone the contractor/military types. There is also a willingness among the Bharaini's to marry outisde of their culture. I know a black American ex-pat who is married to a Bahraini. A white-hispanic American military men, who technically works in Saudi now, but met his girlfriend/fiance' while stationed in Bahrain, whose girlfriend is Bahraini, with an Arab father and Filipino mother. I'm about ot go have coffee with a Lebanese teacher who also started her own business here. So though personally you can't, it seems many people can.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:35 AM
 
Location: West Jakarta + Tangerang
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Tourism in Singapore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's not true at all. If you look at the breakup of tourists, you can see how evenly spread it is. The largest group is from Indonesia, not, Malaysia.
Yeah ,it's because of the location of Singapore,Malaysia and Indonesia were very close, I know many people in Indonesia who likes to go to Singapore for vacation, shopping and medical treatment. and you need to know also the biggest contributor to tourists in Indonesia is Singapore then followed Cina, Malaysia, Australia, Japan, Korea etc. The greatest contributor of tourists in Indonesia many come from countries near / Asian.
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