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Old 08-09-2014, 04:24 AM
 
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I am most curious what will happen with that in the future.

My guess is that more and more Chinese who eventually gain Singaporean citizenship, might in a generation or two, end up in Bohor Jahru, and making the southern tip of Malaysia more Chinese ethnicity in population.

Perhaps.
I just wonder how much they will influence the culture versus Singapore influencing them. People might think being Chinese majority that there won't be cultural differences, but the culture of Singapore is still very different to that of China in many ways. Singapore has never been a 'Chinese enclave' in SEA, it's always been a stridently multicultural, 'multiracial' nation, from the language, cuisine, customs.etc. The Chinese come from a different background, a much more homogeneous one. My mother grew up with things like Hari Raya and Deepavali, for instance.
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Old 08-09-2014, 04:27 AM
 
Location: Macao
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People might think being Chinese majority that there won't be cultural differences, but the culture of Singapore is still very different to that of China in many ways.
So true!

I'm up here in Hong Kong/Macau area...and the Mainland Chinese are significantly different from the Chinese who grew up in HK/Macau.

I just don't see how Singapore can even enforce all those laws they have with that segment of the population. Often I think the only reason Singapore even created so many 'social order' types of laws, was BECAUSE of the Mainland Chinese...
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Old 08-09-2014, 04:47 AM
 
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So true!

I'm up here in Hong Kong/Macau area...and the Mainland Chinese are significantly different from the Chinese who grew up in HK/Macau.

I just don't see how Singapore can even enforce all those laws they have with that segment of the population. Often I think the only reason Singapore even created so many 'social order' types of laws, was BECAUSE of the Mainland Chinese...
Well a lot of those laws long preceded the influx from the PRC, when China was largely a closed society. It was part of Lee's grand plan to 'civilise' Singapore, to make it like Switzerland (which he used as a role model), during the crucial development years of they 60s and the 70s. It was designed to make Singaporeans live more harmonious and civic-minded.
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Old 08-09-2014, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Derby, Western Australia
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I am most curious what will happen with that in the future.

My guess is that more and more Chinese who eventually gain Singaporean citizenship, might in a generation or two, end up in Bohor Jahru, and making the southern tip of Malaysia more Chinese ethnicity in population.

Perhaps.

I think in the not too distant future we'll eventually see an EU style setup in the ASEAN region allowing freer movement, without the countries necessarily re-uniting.
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Old 08-09-2014, 05:14 AM
 
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I think in the not too distant future we'll eventually see an EU style setup in the ASEAN region allowing freer movement, without the countries necessarily re-uniting.
Hmm...I can't imagine that. Interesting idea though.

That might be an interesting Thread to start...
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Old 08-09-2014, 07:26 PM
 
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I think in the not too distant future we'll eventually see an EU style setup in the ASEAN region allowing freer movement, without the countries necessarily re-uniting.
If that was the case I don't know if it would be a good idea for Singapore.
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Old 08-10-2014, 07:07 AM
 
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Hong Kong is similar to Singapore in many ways but HK imports few foregin workers except domestic helpers. Many low-paid jobs are done by new immigrants which will eventually become full citizens in the future from Mainland China and South Asia. Brunei , Macau and the Gulf countries have been importing foreign workers for many decades. Australia is a rich country but it does not have a foreign worker policy, it has an immigration policy of skilled immigrants from many different countries.
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I don't think Singapore would really be able to function without a large foreign workforce. Singaporean culture deems that to be successful you need to be a doctor, lawyer, banker or businessman and the low wages, poor conditions=poor social prestige. In the link that the OP posted most of those top ten sectors staffed by foreigners such as construction, mechanical and service workers would consist of lowly paid positions that few Singaporeans would be willing to work in so it's a bit of a case of having your cake and eating it too.

Probably the most significant factor however is that Singapore has nearly the lowest birthrate in the world with 1.19 children per woman, in 1970 this was at 3.07! So there is an obvious demographic bulge at the upper end of the age pyramids and birth rates now below replacement the only possible way to cover this and keep the economy churning along is through recruiting foreign labour.
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Old 08-10-2014, 07:12 AM
 
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Singapore's strict laws and society resembles that of the middle east, and unlike modern England, India or China
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Well a lot of those laws long preceded the influx from the PRC, when China was largely a closed society. It was part of Lee's grand plan to 'civilise' Singapore, to make it like Switzerland (which he used as a role model), during the crucial development years of they 60s and the 70s. It was designed to make Singaporeans live more harmonious and civic-minded.
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Old 08-10-2014, 07:17 AM
 
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Singapore's strict laws and society resembles that of the middle east, and unlike modern England, India or China
China doesn't have strict laws? lol Do you know how long the list of capital crimes is?
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:06 AM
 
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As a colonial construct, Singapore is like any other colony, the population is imported via immigration to meet the needs of the colonists and their plantations, banks and industries. Therefore, it does not have to have any resemblance to the native population there prior to colonization. So to speak of 'native' when speaking of a colonial society is a relative term.

And to that point, it is not racist to say the Malaysian aborigine or Malay (which I hate because of the racist history attached to the term) is truly the only 'native' of Singapore by blood and history. Just read the old books on the creation of Singapore and you will see the natives prior to the influx of immigrants.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/C...s_of_Singapore





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