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Old 10-08-2014, 04:44 AM
 
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Well, I am sure there are many disappointed people around the world now that this protest has largely dissipated.
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Old 10-08-2014, 10:08 AM
 
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Nope, you got it wrong. Don't talk about thing that you don't even have a clue of

China don't practice communist ideals anymore. After Mao's period, communism was dead. Today China political and economic structures are based on meritocratic system,realism and practical-ism, running more like a corpoartion. You move up the ladder base on your performances and efforts. It was started by Deng in the 1980. It is probably the most unique system in the world.
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Nope, you can speak anything freely in China.

Come on, Kid, don't say something that you don't even a clue of. In China, no ones really care about politics. Politics is a western thing.
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Good point. Chinese leaders are selected by their predecessors or supervisors, exactly like a corporation.
Corporations have a very limited amount of democracy, and low level employees have next to zero power. But, they could be promoted if they do well. If it is a fair company, everyone has a chance to be promoted.
And wow. Further proof that there is the CCP's alternative universe, and then there is the rest of the world in our current time continuum.
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:03 AM
 
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And wow. Further proof that there is the CCP's alternative universe, and then there is the rest of the world in our current time continuum.
So you lost your capability to argue and can only do name calling and emotion expression lol
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:59 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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So you lost your capability to argue and can only do name calling and emotion expression lol
lol, but what would be the point?
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Old 10-08-2014, 12:31 PM
 
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So you lost your capability to argue and can only do name calling and emotion expression lol
No no no... you misunderstand me. You see, the thing is that in order to have an intelligent debate, we need to live in the same universe time continuum. At the very least, we need to talk about the same China, not the China in the CCP's alternate celestial universe.

Half of my family grew up under the CCP, with my grandfather and father in the Red Army and PLA being life long Party members. The Party that you described just doesn't really match up to the actual CCP on this planet. Like I said, you may be referring to an alternative space continuum. Not offense intended, and not accusing you guys of anything.
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Old 10-08-2014, 09:06 PM
 
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Good point. Chinese leaders are selected by their predecessors or supervisors, exactly like a corporation.
Corporations have a very limited amount of democracy, and low level employees have next to zero power. But, they could be promoted if they do well. If it is a fair company, everyone has a chance to be promoted.

Oh, like a corporation..... Yet another western invention borrowed.
At this point you are transparently grasping at straws. Its pretty clear now that the real issue isn't "westernization" but democratization and loss of political power by the CCP.

What do the western ideas of communism and corporation have that democracy doesn't?
They do not present a system whereby the current regime might lose its exclusive grip on power
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Old 10-09-2014, 01:42 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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Nope, you can speak anything freely in China.

Come on, Kid, don't say something that you don't even a clue of. In China, no ones really care about politics. Politics is a western thing.
It's funny you say that, we had a thread going on here about this...

Are Asians more interested in politics than westerners?
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Old 10-09-2014, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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Nope, you got it wrong. Don't talk about thing that you don't even have a clue of

China don't practice communist ideals anymore. After Mao's period, communism was dead. Today China political and economic structures are based on meritocratic system,realism and practical-ism, running more like a corpoartion. You move up the ladder base on your performances and efforts. It was started by Deng in the 1980. It is probably the most unique system in the world.
Perhaps ideally, but much like America's democracy, a lot of it is simply cronyism:

China sacks over 160,000 'phantom' officials: Shanghaiist
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Old 10-09-2014, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Well, I am sure there are many disappointed people around the world now that this protest has largely dissipated.
I am actually quite curious about this. Now that the protest has largely dissipated, why hasn't HK police force evacuated the protesters? It's not like they're severely outnumbered now.
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Old 10-09-2014, 02:15 PM
 
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I am actually quite curious about this. Now that the protest has largely dissipated, why hasn't HK police force evacuated the protesters? It's not like they're severely outnumbered now.
There is no need to. Once the momentum is gone, it will only go downhill.

I do respect their protest effort, however it was doomed to fail from the beginning.

1) these people have no real agenda and no leader. They set an ultimate goal without any measures to achieve that. For a demonstration to work, you will need efficient leaders, and you will need well designed plans, including where to compromise.

2) US, UK etc. don't really care about HK any more. They support them on paper of course because they know it is not worth fighting Beijing right now.

3) they don't even have majority support of HK citizens. Too much disruption to business during the best shopping season. You think those business owners will be glad about all the lost revenue?
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