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Old 10-22-2014, 04:52 PM
 
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Perhaps they have better PRAGMATIC skills. This is knowing when and where to respond appropriately in the right context, despite the language.

For example, I used to live in South Korea, and I can't even begin to count the number of times I'd enter a PC-Bang (an Internet Cafe) and have the attendant have no clue whatsoever that I came in to the use the Internet. Another example is standing up in a restaurant, and looking for the bathroom, and the waiters not knowing why you are standing up and looking for something.

In most other countries, if a diner stands up, the waiter/waitress will automatically point towards the bathroom, assuming that is the reason they are standing up. If a person enters an internet cafe, they will assume they want to use the internet.

Perhaps the Vietnamese are just giving the illusion they know what is being said, based on the fact they know when to say 'yes' or 'no', or respond despite the language. I've met tons and tons of Vietnamese who can't speak English very well, despite being in the U.S. for many years even. So, it definitely isn't an English proficiency thing, as they don't have it. Probably just better pragmatics.

I see your point but I can see my vietnamese friends understand and speak English nicely with their accents already at first day of school. when I first came, I could understand literally 0. so I am surprised with vietnamese people's english skills....
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Old 10-23-2014, 08:54 PM
 
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Maybe its because Vietnam is less xenophobic and needs more tourist $$.
I don't think Vietnam has any xenophobia (maybe the only exception is Chinese people haha). but indeed they can speak English fluently. Like you see any teenagers on the streets and ask them something, at least one of them will give you answer in adequate English.

South Korea and Japan, hell, no.
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Old 10-27-2014, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Again, these Vietnamese people who got into US school are mostly rich kids. Rich kids in poor countries are mostly outgoing. Rich people of 3rd world countries like Vietnam and Philippines prefer to send their kids in international schools, where they can hone their english proficiency.
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Old 10-27-2014, 05:14 AM
 
Location: West Jakarta + Tangerang
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Vietnamese in general can not speak English, they can only speak vietnam language .. people who can able to speak English well is besides Singaporean are Filipinos , I'm in awe with a this country " philipines" because the people there able to pronounce English well ..^^^_
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Old 10-27-2014, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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The Asian nations that speak good English:
India, the Philippines, Singapore, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Brunei, Israel.

The rest all speak terrible English.
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Old 10-27-2014, 06:01 AM
 
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Not sure if Kuwait, UAE and Qatar citizens can speak good English or not. English is also an important language in the Gulf states as there are many foreigners working there.
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The Asian nations that speak good English:
India, the Philippines, Singapore, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Brunei, Israel.

The rest all speak terrible English.
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Old 10-27-2014, 06:04 AM
 
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Rich kids in countries like Vietnam ,China and Thailand can afford to learn better english and even pick up an American accent.
Poor kids are rarely taught by Western teachers and do not pick up a western accent.
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Again, these Vietnamese people who got into US school are mostly rich kids. Rich kids in poor countries are mostly outgoing. Rich people of 3rd world countries like Vietnam and Philippines prefer to send their kids in international schools, where they can hone their english proficiency.
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Old 10-27-2014, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Not sure if Kuwait, UAE and Qatar citizens can speak good English or not. English is also an important language in the Gulf states as there are many foreigners working there.
Add Gulf States to the list then. I don't know much about those countries.
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Old 10-27-2014, 07:39 PM
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I'll let you guys in a on secret...the reason is that English teachers are increasing rapidly in Vietnam especially in HCMC. You'll be surprised. Quite a few of the locals have never left the country, but have near perfect accents thanks to American, British, and Australian teachers. There is a demand for teachers who can assist in English prep test courses also. It still needs some catching up to do, but give it another 3-4 yrs and you'll see much more English being spoken by the younger Vietnamese. My sister visits Vietnam every 3 months due to work and is astonished at the changes every time she visits. Certain areas that were underdeveloped are now bustling with shops, malls, etc. Vietnam had over 1mil American tourists visiting last year.

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Old 10-27-2014, 11:10 PM
 
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I heard college math and science are taught in English in Germany.
In East Asia, it is taught in Chinese, Korean, Japanese. And interestingly, many of the terms were translated from European languages to Japanese words with Chinese roots first, and then introduced to Chinese and Korean (which has all the Chinese roots too).
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