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Old 10-28-2014, 10:25 AM
 
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No, I've been all over Asia and most people in Vietnam cannot even speak English. Even buying a train ticket at the Saigon railway station was a hassle. Most young folks? Mostly none, or very basic.
even those adults who immigrated to the USA more than 20 years ago can not still speak good English
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Old 11-03-2014, 05:44 PM
 
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Again, these Vietnamese people who got into US school are mostly rich kids. Rich kids in poor countries are mostly outgoing. Rich people of 3rd world countries like Vietnam and Philippines prefer to send their kids in international schools, where they can hone their english proficiency.
I believe there are only less than 10% of these Filipino students study in any US schools since there are lots of A-schools and international schools in the country. Fyi
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Old 11-04-2014, 03:09 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I believe there are only less than 10% of these Filipino students study in any US schools since there are lots of A-schools and international schools in the country. Fyi
Correct. You actually do not need to study in international school in PH to be able to learn English. Going to IS is more of a lifestyle than learning.

I was suprised that Vietnamese outnumbered Chinese in San Jose where Silicone Valley is located.
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Old 11-04-2014, 09:05 AM
 
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Although English is taught in every Vietnamese schools from primaries to universities, the majority of students can't speak basic English fluently. It's an education system failure, and it's sad. But for those who are willing to learn English (to study abroad for example), they would speak nice English.
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Old 11-04-2014, 08:18 PM
 
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Seems to be the case in most of Asia. Many of the teachers themselves aren't that fluent.
Agree.
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Old 11-05-2014, 01:25 AM
 
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The good thing is, Vietnamese, Thais, Cambodians, Laotians...they don't need to go to the west just to learn English. Countries like Singapore and Philippines are cheaper options, their society is also predominantly English.
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Old 11-05-2014, 03:11 AM
 
Location: West Jakarta + Tangerang
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I think the Indonesian had pretty good English than Vietnamese or thais.

I really like the way speech and accents is artist cinta laura , she is an American-Indonesian descent. many people in Indonesia considers her arrogant because of the way she speaks English - Indonesian mixed a little less to be understood and many say that she forgets her mother tongue "Indonesian" regardless of the form there are many pros and cons with this one artist; but basically her a very clever artist

*the way she speaks sounds cool ...


Cinta Laura Kiehl Shopping & Eating Around New York City - Indonesian Version - YouTube
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:20 AM
 
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And even the native speakers they hire as English teachers are often not competent. I have a friend teaching in Vietnam now and he says there's no organisation. He's in Hue.
Incompetent foreign teachers plus 90% of other unqualified native ones are a major reason that cause such a poor quality in English learning. Vietnam is going to hire Filipino English teachers for changing the situation, despite having to spend a lot of money on this.

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Old 11-05-2014, 09:45 AM
 
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Gosh no offence, but I hope they don't pick up their thick pinoy accents! haha
Accent of the teacher does not matter much, as long as it is not too off. Nowadays people pick up American accent from movies and internet.
When I was in school, British accent was taught in school, and the teacher really had a weird mixture of accents. However the students did not copy her accent.
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Old 11-05-2014, 10:50 AM
 
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Very few ESL speakers speak in American or British accents. Maybe attempts at it, but of course it rarely sounds native like.
Few teachers can do that. However the textbook showed IPA with British pronunciations. For those who did master IPA (very few though), they could have some basic idea. (All students in China learned IPA in English class.)

Basically my observation is that students do not copy their teacher's accent much. If they have the capability to copy accents at all, they would copy American accent from media. Most are just heavily influenced by their native language.
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