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Old 10-21-2014, 03:22 PM
 
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Hi, when I come to the US from Korea, I could not speak any english but it seems that every vietnamese who just came to US from their country immediately speak nice english which really surprise me.... Do general population of vietnamese speak nice english like that?
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Old 10-21-2014, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Macao
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Hi, when I come to the US from Korea, I could not speak any english but it seems that every vietnamese who just came to US from their country immediately speak nice english which really surprise me.... Do general population of vietnamese speak nice english like that?
The majority of the Vietnamese you have met in the U.S., have been there awhile.

In Vietnam, they have a very tonal, nasal sound to their English, and can be very difficult to understand, depending on the speaker. Anyways, it's not the norm for Vietnamese to have good English in Vietnam. They are trying, just like Koreans, but it isn't the norm.
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Old 10-21-2014, 08:43 PM
 
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The majority of the Vietnamese you have met in the U.S., have been there awhile.

In Vietnam, they have a very tonal, nasal sound to their English, and can be very difficult to understand, depending on the speaker. Anyways, it's not the norm for Vietnamese to have good English in Vietnam. They are trying, just like Koreans, but it isn't the norm.

no no I ve seen many vietnamese who just came 1month-12 month in my ESL class....they all speak nice enlgish....they understand pretty good 80 percent...when I first came to the US from Korea, I could not understand anything.....I think general population of vietnamese can speak and understand english nice already in their country....
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Old 10-21-2014, 11:58 PM
 
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If you couldn't understand anything when you first came then how could you judge if they spoke English good? It might have sounded 'good' to you but the reality might have been different.
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Old 10-21-2014, 11:59 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Maybe its because Vietnam is less xenophobic and needs more tourist $$.
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:00 AM
 
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no no I ve seen many vietnamese who just came 1month-12 month in my ESL class....they all speak nice enlgish....they understand pretty good 80 percent...when I first came to the US from Korea, I could not understand anything.....I think general population of vietnamese can speak and understand english nice already in their country....
To be honest, Korean students are among the worst in terms of English proficiency. Chinese students are pretty bad too, but seem to be slightly better than Koreans.
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:32 AM
 
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They do speak English but I cannot understand ,, it is the same when Japanese speak English too. May be that is only me..
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Old 10-22-2014, 01:55 AM
 
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no no I ve seen many vietnamese who just came 1month-12 month in my ESL class....they all speak nice enlgish....they understand pretty good 80 percent...when I first came to the US from Korea, I could not understand anything.....I think general population of vietnamese can speak and understand english nice already in their country....
Perhaps they have better PRAGMATIC skills. This is knowing when and where to respond appropriately in the right context, despite the language.

For example, I used to live in South Korea, and I can't even begin to count the number of times I'd enter a PC-Bang (an Internet Cafe) and have the attendant have no clue whatsoever that I came in to the use the Internet. Another example is standing up in a restaurant, and looking for the bathroom, and the waiters not knowing why you are standing up and looking for something.

In most other countries, if a diner stands up, the waiter/waitress will automatically point towards the bathroom, assuming that is the reason they are standing up. If a person enters an internet cafe, they will assume they want to use the internet.

Perhaps the Vietnamese are just giving the illusion they know what is being said, based on the fact they know when to say 'yes' or 'no', or respond despite the language. I've met tons and tons of Vietnamese who can't speak English very well, despite being in the U.S. for many years even. So, it definitely isn't an English proficiency thing, as they don't have it. Probably just better pragmatics.
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:21 AM
 
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are you sure they are not Filipinos? some people mistake Filipinos as Vietnamese

Filipinos are the asians that always know how to speak English well
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Old 10-22-2014, 04:44 PM
 
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are you sure they are not Filipinos? some people mistake Filipinos as Vietnamese

Filipinos are the asians that always know how to speak English well

no no they said they are from vietnam. when I see vietnamese people or filipinos for the first time, I mistake them as Korean so I talked to them in korean, and they said I don't understand I am from vietnam or filipin. I know filipinos people speak good english(even better than vietnamese) but I didn't know vietnamese people speak nice english too. I thought vietnamese people speak no english as korean people.

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