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Old 12-13-2014, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Miami-Jax
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Sorry if you thought i was providing info. I'm actually looking for information from folks in the area (TigerBeer). How does it look? You expect it to actually be operational in the next 18-24 months? Useful? Thanks.

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Old 12-14-2014, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Macao
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It seems like it's built more for tourists. One of the complaints is that it doesn't readily go to the places that people actually live. That being said, there are cranes everywhere throughout Taipa (the larger island where most of the mega casinos have been built the last few years). So, with all of these future lightrail stations, perhaps they will build up to something interesting later on?

All I really know, is that Macau is going to look a lot different in ten years from now. My favorite areas are all of the Portuguese areas, which are largely light-rail free. This could be either good or bad? On the plus side, they are already quite crowded, so I can't imagine what they'd be like if even more crowded.

I think, at the moment, it's hard to say what all is going to happen and how practical they might be. The other huge development is they are building a bridge to Hong Kong. Additionally, tons of new mega-casinos are being built on Taipa Island. The region is changing rapidly, and it's an interesting time to be living here.
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Old 12-14-2014, 12:40 PM
 
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There is a good chance we will move to Taipa (specifically Cotai) in the next year or two...at least split time with the US. So the connectivity in Cotai is what is most important to me actually. Connectivity to what?? Just stuff to do. Food, entertainment, office space. If it's only connecting the casinos then that would be mostly useless to me.
I guess there's a chance I'd have an office in Zhuhai so that rail extension would be great.

How do you get around right now? Buses? They seem to be pretty efficient and very cheap.

No doubt things have been changing rapidly. It's insane!
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Old 12-14-2014, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Macao
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There is a good chance we will move to Taipa (specifically Cotai) in the next year or two...at least split time with the US. So the connectivity in Cotai is what is most important to me actually. Connectivity to what?? Just stuff to do. Food, entertainment, office space. If it's only connecting the casinos then that would be mostly useless to me.
I guess there's a chance I'd have an office in Zhuhai so that rail extension would be great.

How do you get around right now? Buses? They seem to be pretty efficient and very cheap.

No doubt things have been changing rapidly. It's insane!
Cotai is basically 'Cotai Strip' which is where the large casinos are at. You can easily walk into Taipa from Cotai Strip, I do exactly that all the time. There are some bars and restaurants and such in Taipa Village, not too far from Cotai Strip. Maybe 15 minutes walk? Maybe 20 minute walk if you prefer a more leisurely stroll?

There is a station being built right where Cotai Strip and Taipa area meets. I saw another station over by Venetian, which is right in that same area but on a perpendicular street.

That being said, the buses are very efficient and go pretty much everywhere. I don't have a car here, and I can get everywhere by bus easily. It costs about US 20 cents to get on a bus, with a free transfer. However, if a person is so inclined, taxis are also readily available. The average taxi ride is probably around US$4-5, probably. Maximum I've paid is US$15, but that's going from basically the Chinese border, all the way down to the Airport in Taipa. In short, it is very cheap and easy to get around Macau with buses and even with taxis. Actually I am largely indifferent to the lightrail coming in, as I imagine I'll still be taking buses around most often, with the lightrail as more of a novelty from time to time Perhaps part of why I think this is because I don't see any lightrail stations being built where I currently live.

Zhuhai. If you are going to live there, you just cross the border into Macau, and you have limitless options. Almost every casino goes to the border, and they'll take you directly to their casinos for free with no stops. I occassionally do this anyways, just to avoid the stops of regular buses, as long as my final stop is near a casino. The other option is about 1/3 of all Macau buses go to the border anyways, and they octupus out throughout the entire city. In other words, if you live in Zhuhai, you'll have a ton of access to everywhere in Macau the moment you cross the border, bus-wise.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:25 AM
 
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Thanks for the info! I had read about a future rail line from Macao to Zhuhai, that would create an easy connection on to Zhongshan and Guangzhou. But I should probably adjust my mentality because it sounds like the buses will serve me just fine.

I don't think I'd possibly live in Zhuhai, just commute from Cotai to Zhuhai on occasion.

And FYI, the light rail will certainly help Macao in the long term. As it continues to grow, this will definitely better inform and shape the development patterns in Macao, and possibly alleviate traffic down the road. Not an issue now but with its growth, Macao will look a lot better in 20 years with the light rail than without.
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Old 12-15-2014, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Macao
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Thanks for the info! I had read about a future rail line from Macao to Zhuhai, that would create an easy connection on to Zhongshan and Guangzhou. But I should probably adjust my mentality because it sounds like the buses will serve me just fine.

I don't think I'd possibly live in Zhuhai, just commute from Cotai to Zhuhai on occasion.

And FYI, the light rail will certainly help Macao in the long term. As it continues to grow, this will definitely better inform and shape the development patterns in Macao, and possibly alleviate traffic down the road. Not an issue now but with its growth, Macao will look a lot better in 20 years with the light rail than without.
I agree with the lightrail! I'm looking forward to using it. I'm looking forward to seeing how the city will development because of it, as well.

That being said, the buses do a great job of getting one around for now. I do wish they'd upgrade their buses (they are quite old), and trained their bus drivers better (they drive a little too fast, too recklessly at times - lots of riding the accelerator and brake at the same time, causing standing passengers to have to hold on dearly at times).
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:56 AM
 
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(they drive a little too fast, too recklessly at times - lots of riding the accelerator and brake at the same time, causing standing passengers to have to hold on dearly at times).
Oh my god you are so right!! I have held on for dear life many times, and even when sitting I have to hold on to not fly into the seat next to me. LOL
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Old 01-14-2015, 06:11 PM
 
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Tiger/Project, I was running a search on this board and came upon this thread. Could either of you go into a little more detail on Zhuhai. That is the location of the next project my company is working on and I'm considering making myself available for it. It would entail 25% travel to Zhuhai. I have been to HK but never that area and wanted to get a sense of the place.

Day to day living, commuting, shopping, restaurant scene, bars, culture, etc...anything that you can think of. Thanks in advance.
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Old 01-15-2015, 01:43 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Tiger/Project, I was running a search on this board and came upon this thread. Could either of you go into a little more detail on Zhuhai. That is the location of the next project my company is working on and I'm considering making myself available for it. It would entail 25% travel to Zhuhai. I have been to HK but never that area and wanted to get a sense of the place.

Day to day living, commuting, shopping, restaurant scene, bars, culture, etc...anything that you can think of. Thanks in advance.
Zhuhai. It's very Chinese. Mainland Chinese. My first observation everytime I cross is the border is they always have exotic animal skins for sale, on the street, that someone probably just poached. That's not everywhere, but I've always seen at least 1-2 each time across, that I notice a pattern.

Day-to-Day living. Zhuhai, to me, seems much better than much of Mainland China. I've routinely hear people who like China, readily consider Zhuhai a better place to live than other cities as well. To me, however, I'd still way prefer Macau/HK by a long stretch. On the plus side, you are basically right on the border of Macau anyways. The moment I cross the border, I am immediately in the heart of Zhuhai. I don't have to travel at all to get to the best part of the city, it's all right there. Which is the opposite on the Macau side, where up by the border on the Macau side, it's busy and people, but not all that interesting in that location. Zhuhai side has it all there, which is mostly shopping and some bars and restaurants and such. But if you were to visit Macau, the moment you cross into Macau, they have free casino-sponsored buses which will take you to all the corners of the entire city, for free.

Commuting. I'm not sure, but Zhuhai isn't that big. I can't imagine it would be that bad.

Shopping. You got tons of shopping there. Not sure how high end it goes, but you definitely have all the essentials all over the place. Many Chinese in Macau go across to buy cheap everything. Quality reflects that though.

Restaurants. Not sure, I'd imagine Macau would be much better. But Zhuhai has 'em. I never go over there for restaurants though. As a somewhat interesting aside, they do have a Burger King in Zhuhai, where Macau doesn't have a Burger King. (I know, I know, its fastfood junk, but sometimes nice to have that once in awhile as well).

Bars. There are two areas with bars that I know of in Zhuhai. Both are kind of 'outside', which is great. Outside, meaning you can see the stars in the skies as you drink. One is fancy and expensive, and the other is street-drinking and still somewhat expensive. Well, expensive for CHina standards anyways. About the same prices as Macau though.

Culture. Very very very Chinese. The moment I cross the border, I feel a bit of the poverty and pollution as well, not tons, but it's there compared to Macau, which feels largely absent of both. Also, Macau has international tourism and a decent Portuguese community. Zhuhai, just feels very very Chinese, with the random non-Chinese here and there once in awhile.
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Old 01-15-2015, 05:59 AM
 
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Tiger, thank you very much! Excellent information. Gave me a nice overview of the city.

As far as commuting is concerned the site will be in Hengqin. With that in mind would there be a particular area you would recommend staying while I am there? I want to be in an interesting area, but also want to make sure I am not traveling longer than I would like every morning and afternoon.

I am not sure the exact section of Hengqin, but I assume it it set up similarly to the economic zones in the UAE. Would that be accurate?
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