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More double standards. The simple reason is the U.S. is crying that another bully entered the playground and is mad there is competition now. This country needs some serious humbling.
What country? The Philipines? Vietnam? They are the one's complaining. The US in not in their playgound - does the US occupy any islands in the Spratly Islands? Philipines is pushing the UN law of the sea convention, it's something that China hasn't recognized although I think they signed it.
The real political and diplomatic issue of debate is that the US is NOT crying about the South China Sea, we haven't done a thing about it except for some rethoric. And clearly we won't under the current administration. We are just a bystander at this point, and it becomes silly internet fodder for those extreemest that say "this means war". The real players in this issue is China, and the other countries in SE Asia.
The difference is the US is the world protector. The Government of China is a pirate. Note I said the Government of China, not the people of China. It's time for the hundred of millions of oppressed Chinese to rise against their pirate tyrannical government.
The difference is the US is the world protector. The Government of China is a pirate. Note I said the Government of China, not the people of China. It's time for the hundred of millions of oppressed Chinese to rise against their pirate tyrannical government.
I deal with the "oppressed Chinese" every day. They aren't concerned about the government as long as the Chinese economy is relatively stable (even with the recent downturn). Lack of a free press, internet censorship, the restrictions on the ability to critize the party, government interference in everday life - we take our individual freedoms for granted but for them it's just business as usual. They are more concerned about bad traffic, finding a taxi during Shanghai rush hour, the latest Iphone, raising children, having dinner home or going out, and making money. The average Chinese doesn't feel oppressed. Suff like internet censorships they find ways around it (VPN) with a wink to their neighbors, some of the more silly Chinese government restrictions are just ignored. The Chinese government for it's part, as long as it's citizens aren't criticizing the party, they really don't care.
Simply enough, as long as the economy is good and they have access to all the same comforts enjoyed by us in the west (even without the same freedoms), they are happy. One of the ways the Chinese government is ensuring that the economy stays good is to reach out to the oil resources in the South China Seas.
"China has the right to invade and steal land and from neighboring because they think it's historically theirs'"
This has to be the most stupid statement I read. It's like saying Russia has the right to take land from neighboring countries because those countries were once part of the Soviet Union.
I wonder if this poster is from the Nazis China propaganda machine.
Most Chinese do not support aggression. They are forced to say what the government wants them to say. If they don't, they will be imprisoned or executed. I am not against peaceful Chinese people which are the vast majority. It is their tyrannical government that causes worldwide sufferings.
China's Nazis like aggression must be stopped.
Nope, maybe it was true in the Mao's period. People now in China are free to do whatever they want. There are not many laws around telling people what to do and what not to do. The place is pretty chaotic.
Have you seen the China territory map claimed by Falun Gong or Taiwan? Compared to them, PRC's territory claim is pretty tame. Falun Gong actually calls PRC a traitor because it has given so much land away to other nations.
I will not call China oppressive. It is oppressive as much as any other nations. The so called democratic countries have many laws force upon many people who don't like the laws. It is very tyrannical too.
I deal with the "oppressed Chinese" every day. They aren't concerned about the government as long as the Chinese economy is relatively stable (even with the recent downturn). Lack of a free press, internet censorship, the restrictions on the ability to critize the party, government interference in everday life - we take our individual freedoms for granted but for them it's just business as usual. They are more concerned about bad traffic, finding a taxi during Shanghai rush hour, the latest Iphone, raising children, having dinner home or going out, and making money. The average Chinese doesn't feel oppressed. Suff like internet censorships they find ways around it (VPN) with a wink to their neighbors, some of the more silly Chinese government restrictions are just ignored. The Chinese government for it's part, as long as it's citizens aren't criticizing the party, they really don't care.
Simply enough, as long as the economy is good and they have access to all the same comforts enjoyed by us in the west (even without the same freedoms), they are happy. One of the ways the Chinese government is ensuring that the economy stays good is to reach out to the oil resources in the South China Seas.
The most dangerous belief in the United States is the belief that people of different cultures share Western values. That is NOT the case and the belief that the average Chinese is a democrat who wants those core Western values is asinine because that couldn't be further from the truth.
BTW, Chinese-like censorship and restrictions on the press are also beginning to creep into the United States. These aren't formal laws but expressing certain beliefs will now get you blacklisted and will follow you forever thanks to Google. Read up on Justine Sacco and how a dumb joke cost her her job. Private companies are now able to force people to toe the line and follow certain values or risk losing your livelihood. While it isn't as bad as China, I would say it is still quite bad as freedom of expression is gradually being curtailed especially if it doesn't toe the official line.
The most dangerous belief in the United States is the belief that people of different cultures share Western values. That is NOT the case and the belief that the average Chinese is a democrat who wants those core Western values is asinine because that couldn't be further from the truth.
Of course, and some simply cannot adapt to western values.
I read in a forum years go when eastern europe was tranforming out of communism. Someone asked an eastern europe how they were enjoying their new freedom. The answer? You would think they would be jumping for joy? More then one person hated it - now they had to make decisions, think for themeselves, worry about a job and advancement, compete, etc. Life was now much more complex. Previously the government did the thinking and decisions for them. They were lost. Many only wanted to work in a mindless job and get drunk on vodka in the evening. Now they actually have to think, plan for the future, learn.
China of course isn't that bad.
A quick note on the second paragraph: Who's to say prohibiting a private company from determing who they should and shouldn't hire (aside from reasons of race, etc) is in itself a violation of this companies (which may indeed be simply one guy operating a small business) freedom of expression to operate without government restrictions . It goes both way. A topic for another discussion of course...
I deal with the "oppressed Chinese" every day. They aren't concerned about the government as long as the Chinese economy is relatively stable (even with the recent downturn). Lack of a free press, internet censorship, the restrictions on the ability to critize the party, government interference in everday life - we take our individual freedoms for granted but for them it's just business as usual. They are more concerned about bad traffic, finding a taxi during Shanghai rush hour, the latest Iphone, raising children, having dinner home or going out, and making money. The average Chinese doesn't feel oppressed. Suff like internet censorships they find ways around it (VPN) with a wink to their neighbors, some of the more silly Chinese government restrictions are just ignored. The Chinese government for it's part, as long as it's citizens aren't criticizing the party, they really don't care.
Simply enough, as long as the economy is good and they have access to all the same comforts enjoyed by us in the west (even without the same freedoms), they are happy. One of the ways the Chinese government is ensuring that the economy stays good is to reach out to the oil resources in the South China Seas.
Which is why we (the US) should stop trading with China. Yeah, we will suffer some hardships ... but they will suffer even worse hardships. We will ultimately bring down the People's Republic without firing a single bullet or missile ... the Chinese people will overthrow the CCP overlords.
China is only communist or socialist in name. In practice, it's actually quite capitalist and materialisic, probably moreso than most Western nations. The government here doesn't give you a job unless you've got family, connections, and a college degree; nearly all factories, even the "state owned" ones, are actually administered by private entities and thus they employ people privately. Mom and pop or family businesses are everywhere. you have to pay to put your kids in public school.
Which is why we (the US) should stop trading with China. Yeah, we will suffer some hardships ... but they will suffer even worse hardships. We will ultimately bring down the People's Republic without firing a single bullet or missile ... the Chinese people will overthrow the CCP overlords.
Uhhh, did you forget that the US had a complete trade embargo on China from 1950 to 1980? The US even refused to recognize the PRC until the 70s. Trade embargoes didn't work against Japan in the 30s-40s and it certainly didn't work against China in the 50s-80s nor did it work for Cuba. Trade embargoes sure as hell aren't working for North Korea right now.
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