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On another thread, I was discussing about Filipino's previous territorial association with the US, and why they decided to split and not my island, Puerto Rico. PR and the Philippines were in political union with the US since 1898, but the Philippines voted for independence, while Puerto Rico did not. So, what were the circumstances back then, and what are people's feelings now? As a native born Puerto Rican, part of me wants the Philippines to "come back" into the family.
On another thread, I was discussing about Filipino's previous territorial association with the US, and why they decided to split and not my island, Puerto Rico. PR and the Philippines were in political union with the US since 1898, but the Philippines voted for independence, while Puerto Rico did not. So, what were the circumstances back then, and what are people's feelings now? As a native born Puerto Rican, part of me wants the Philippines to "come back" into the family.
The circumstances? Being occupied by Imperial Japan and being part of the liberation fight.
The circumstances? Being occupied by Imperial Japan and being part of the liberation fight.
What does Japan have anything to do with it? You're basically saying, if Japan never invaded the Philippines, then the Philippines would be part of the US.
What does Japan have anything to do with it? You're basically saying, if Japan never invaded the Philippines, then the Philippines would be part of the US.
If Puerto Rico was invaded by Germany and they had guerrillas as well as armies in the field to beat Germany back come 1946 independence would have been more likely and more highly pushed then a few trying to kill President Truman.
If Puerto Rico was invaded by Germany and they had guerrillas as well as armies in the field to beat Germany back come 1946 independence would have been more likely and more highly pushed then a few trying to kill President Truman.
Ah, I get the analogy now. So if it weren't for Japan, the Philippines could have probably been a state for all we know. hell, with so many of you guys living here, might as well be a state
Ah, I get the analogy now. So if it weren't for Japan, the Philippines could have probably been a state for all we know. hell, with so many of you guys living here, might as well be a state
Not likely after the Spanish American War the Filipinos lost an insurgency to the US going for statehood was never an option. Fighting and having the theatre commander pushing for their independence just accelerated the pace as WWII did for other social and political changes worldwide.
In January 1933 the US passed the Hare-Hawes-Cutting Act, a bill that promised independence to the Philippines in ten years. It was superseded by the Tydings-McDuffie Act, that Filipino leadership preferred. Filipinos had lobbied for independence for years before that and there were also powerful interests inside the United States that were against holding on to the Philippines for their own reasons. World War II actually caused a delay in Philippine independence.
Among the interests inside the US that supported Philippine independence were farmers who feared competition from the Philippines and racists who were worried about non-white people coming to the country. Hawaii was already had a large Filipino population and the west coast had a growing Filipino population. Afterwards the same Asian exclusion rules that applied to the rest of Asia also applied to the Philippines.
Not likely after the Spanish American War the Filipinos lost an insurgency to the US going for statehood was never an option. Fighting and having the theatre commander pushing for their independence just accelerated the pace as WWII did for other social and political changes worldwide.
The Americans butchered the Filipinos during that insurgency the same way the Japanese butchered them during WWII. I wonder why the US never apologized for it?
On another thread, I was discussing about Filipino's previous territorial association with the US, and why they decided to split and not my island, Puerto Rico. PR and the Philippines were in political union with the US since 1898, but the Philippines voted for independence, while Puerto Rico did not. So, what were the circumstances back then, and what are people's feelings now? As a native born Puerto Rican, part of me wants the Philippines to "come back" into the family.
the circumstances are just different. so much blood had been spilled in the quest for independence since 15th century that the patriots would not settle for just a commonwealth.
this is the difference. in Asia, only Philippines and Vietnam fought for their independence. India, Malaysia, Singapore got theirs because their colonial masters gave it to them..
for the Philippines, it took 380 years to kick out foreign invaders only to be subjugated by the local elites
what an irony
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