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Old 06-26-2015, 10:41 AM
 
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What do you all think of China appointing a governor to rule HK, like what the British did, instead of all this nonsense over electing a CE? Or just place it under Shenzhen's rule and replace the Hong Kong police with the People Armed Police? Would things just quieten down?

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Old 06-26-2015, 09:22 PM
 
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What do you all think of China appointing a governor to rule HK, like what the British did, instead of all this nonsense over electing a CE? Or just place it under Shenzhen's rule and replace the Hong Kong police with the People Armed Police? Would things just quieten down?
Well, that would certainly **** off a plurality of HK citizens... if it did "quiet down," it would most likely be because they blacked out social media and exacted mainland PRC standards over protesting and the media, and not because it placated the populace. At the very least, it certainly wouldn't be an amicable fix.
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Old 06-26-2015, 09:28 PM
 
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The governance of HK and Macau SAR have to follow the Basic Laws, a constitution like laws passed by the Mainland Chinese lawmaking body in Beijing before both cities' handover to China. The Basic Law stipulated that the CE must be a permanent resident(aka a local) who have lived in the SAR for many years. This arrangement is guranteed unchanged for at least 50 years in the Basic Law. Therefore it is not possible to appoint a non-local as the head a SAR or change the laws and systems of government to Mainland China's ones for at least 50 years.

If HK and Macau become the same as Mainland China, lots of international businesses, investors, locals and expatriates will be leaving in a mass exodus. Autonomy is the major factor that people staying or coming after the handover. When the UK refused to grant the right to live in the UK for most Hongkongers who have never lived in the UK. There was a exodus of educated elites, rich and middle class before the handover as people were afraid of HK becoming exactly the same as Mainland China after 1997. People want to keep the ways and do not want great changes in HK and Macau after the handover. HK and Macau laws and freedom are extremely similar to UK's and Portugal's. These people eventually return to HK after securing foreign citizenships.

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Old 06-26-2015, 11:47 PM
 
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The governance of HK and Macau SAR have to follow the Basic Laws, a constitution like laws passed by the Mainland Chinese lawmaking body in Beijing before both cities' handover to China. The Basic Law stipulated that the CE must be a permanent resident(aka a local) who have lived in the SAR for many years. This arrangement is guranteed unchanged for at least 50 years in the Basic Law. Therefore it is not possible to appoint a non-local as the head a SAR or change the laws and systems of government to Mainland China's ones for at least 50 years.

If HK and Macau become the same as Mainland China, lots of international businesses, investors, locals and expatriates will be leaving in a mass exodus. Autonomy is the major factor that people staying or coming after the handover. When the UK refused to grant the right to live in the UK for most Hongkongers who have never lived in the UK. There was a exodus of educated elites, rich and middle class before the handover as people were afraid of HK becoming exactly the same as Mainland China after 1997. People want to keep the ways and do not want great changes in HK and Macau after the handover. HK and Macau laws and freedom are extremely similar to UK's and Portugal's. These people eventually return to HK after securing foreign citizenships.
What I mean is a PRC governor is appointed to rule HK, like what the British did.

However, he keeps the current Business regulatory framework, the investment rules in place.

In effect, a total hands-off approach, implementing a total "business as usual" approach.
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Old 06-27-2015, 12:59 PM
 
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The CE must be a PRC national without foreign citizenships and also a local. Deng Xiaoping recommended "HK people ruling HK" and most HKers support this idea than having direct rule from Beijing.

Business as usual approach is already in HK after the handover.
Everything in HK is the responsibility of the SAR government except foreign affairs and defence. All troops in HK and Macau are Mainland Chinese and the expense of them paid by the government in Beijing. HK and Macau do not pay taxes to Beijing, are fully independent in public finance.
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Old 06-27-2015, 01:17 PM
 
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The CE must be a PRC national without foreign citizenships and also a local. Deng Xiaoping recommended "HK people ruling HK" and most HKers support this idea than having direct rule from Beijing.

Business as usual approach is already in HK after the handover.
Everything in HK is the responsibility of the SAR government except foreign affairs and defence. All troops in HK and Macau are Mainland Chinese and the expense of them paid by the government in Beijing. HK and Macau do not pay taxes to Beijing, are fully independent in public finance
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In other words, just like british rule.
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