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Old 06-29-2015, 01:56 PM
AFP
 
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I am sure those students who were caned are much less likely to steal again than an American student who just got a warning because both teachers and the parents think we "shouldn't hurt the student's feelings".

I prefer to have kids that are self motivated to succeed rather than being motivated by fear of punishment. I personally use the technique of rewarding with verbal praise for a job well done, unmet expectations are discussed there is give and take in speaking and listening,my student is given full opportunity to explain what went wrong and to construct a plan to ensure success as independently as possible with some assistence from me if necessary consequences are clearly outlined and progressive corporal punishment isn't a consideration. I have an 18 year old attending a top university starting this fall and have never had any significant behioural issues up to this point. I believe fear of punishment hinders creativity. I'd rather not raise unceative, neurotic, uptight, overly comformist kids. But everyone values different things.
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Old 06-29-2015, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Trieste
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It is frowned up in the west and probably many other countries as well, but I am fully supportive of that. For most frequent criminals, fining or imprisonment simply don't deter repeated behavior - you pay some money, or spend a couple of months in jail, with food and shelter provided, big deal, especially when there is hardly anything to lose.

But if it involves some physical pain, it makes a difference. Will Lindsay Lohan or Justin Bieber keep doing what they do if the result is to be whipped physically?

Plus, if someone committed a crime, why do the other taxpayers have to come up with money to provide him with food, clothes and shelter as well as other overhead expenses? Makes no sense to me.

Of course I am not advocating something overly harsh like cutting off a thief's hand or something like in the old times, but what Singapore is still doing despite what the world thinks is admirable.
I agree totally

we should return to phisical punishment
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Old 06-29-2015, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Singapore
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Doesn't the Singapore school system have an official position called the Discipline Master who canes errant students?
Well, I have been out of the school system for some time, but yes, my classmates were caned by the discipline master. But the discipline master covers all students discipline matters too, etc, no dye hair, proper haircut etc.
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Old 06-30-2015, 05:51 AM
 
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Just so you know, when I was in public school in the states corporal punishment was normal and it was not so strange to get paddled. In fact, my Primary School Principal has a big wooden paddle that he kept on the wall in front of his desk and any kid entering his office saw it and knew what it was for. Of course things are different now.
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Old 06-30-2015, 07:05 AM
 
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Only one sentence "when in Rome, do as the Romans do"!
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:13 AM
 
Location: WA
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I like it very much. Corporal punishment is completely legal in Indonesia but not as systemized as Singapore. Each school has difference policies. For example, I attended private school for Primary, and High School. During my Primary school years the main punishment was hitting your nail with the edge of wood ruler (trust me, it hurts as hell) or by simply slapping your face, but on my high school the school don't allow teachers to hit students so the teacher will make us stand at front, doing push ups, squat jumps, running on field , cleaning toilets and classrooms, or other form of humiliations lol.

But at Singapore, I heard that they really regulate the amount of whipping, where to whip, etc.

TL;DR I support corporal punishment. Whether at school or home.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:09 AM
 
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We used to get this delivered to the hands by the teacher ....

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However, when we were ready to leave school there was some 'score settling'. At the leavers vs teachers rugby match, one notorious teacher ended up in hospital and a couple of the others were on the end of some pretty rough play. The teachers also tried to dish out some punishment but not as effectively. Interestingly, the really good teachers never needed to threaten physical punishment.

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Old 07-01-2015, 11:22 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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When I was a young student in the US way back in the 1950's the schools did have physical punishment. You could be hit several times on the rear end with a thick wood paddle for serious infractions. This applied only to boys. Appears this kind of punishment has now disappeared.
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Old 07-01-2015, 11:30 AM
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We used to get this delivered to the hands by the teacher ....



However, when we were ready to leave school there was some 'score settling'. At the leavers vs teachers rugby match, one notorious teacher ended up in hospital and a couple of the others were on the end of some pretty rough play. The teachers also tried to dish out some punishment but not as effectively. Interestingly, the really good teachers never needed to threaten physical punishment.
Lol good for you I would have done the same. Had it been one of my kids I pity the person. What goes around comes around.
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Old 07-01-2015, 02:36 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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I think it's strictly the Singaporeans' business, not ours. That being said, no, I would not support its implementation in the West.

I'll add I am generally supportive of corporal punishment in schools.
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