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Old 07-01-2015, 11:19 AM
 
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There are only 3 countries in the world with the fastest trains: France, China, Japan. France has the fastest trains in the world, followed by China
And Spain and Germany and England and Taiwan and Belgium and Italy and the Netherlands and probably more. They all have trains that travel at 300 km/h (which is the fastest train speed in China), Spain and France have trains that top out at 320 km/h.

To the original question, most of the trains in China are pretty new, so they all seem really nice and comfortable and efficient. As GoldenTiger pointed out though, some of the train stations are not so nice. I have only taken the high speed train once in Japan, and they were also very nice and the stewardesses are super, super polite and friendly (like bowing and thanking everyone when they leave the train car and stuff).
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:17 PM
 
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It doesn't really botticelli. For those millions that travel it, how many are only single trip riders versus commuters? If speed is the most important factor, then you're a commuter. But if you're just a tourist, it's not gonna matter much. Lots of people ride the TGV in France, too, but many are not commuters.
Why does the ratio of commuters to single trip riders matter?

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I think you misunderstood the point of my post. How's gonna visit a country based on how fast the trains are?
I don't think botticelli misunderstand it. Check what you have written in previous post.

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I seriously doubt anybody is going to judge living in a country based on how advanced the trains are......long distance trains you are seldom going to take
Here are many commuters who ride Shinkansen on a daily basis in Japan. By the way, does the word commuters include students who ride train from and to schools?
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Old 07-01-2015, 10:48 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Well said I really hate the extreme car culture of the US. I just wish I could hop on a train and read a book or listen to music while I get to my destination.
True, i like driving and all but its just more chill sitting on a train playing on your laptop or listening to your music. driving a car you have to actually focus on operating the vehicle, planes are just too uncomfortable for me.
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Old 07-03-2015, 02:01 PM
 
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True, i like driving and all but its just more chill sitting on a train playing on your laptop or listening to your music. driving a car you have to actually focus on operating the vehicle, planes are just too uncomfortable for me.
Driving is fine, but being stuck in traffic regularly twice a day at the same time every single working day between the age 23 and 65 is not fine.

Additionally, trains usually arrive on time regardless of traffic conditions. Cars can be highly unpredictable. A 4 miles trip can take 15 minutes, or an hour.

Many Americans have this illusion that because they drive, they have more "freedom" - really? Is your entire life being chained to a car "freedom"? Being able to drive is freedom, but having to drive everywhere you need to - that's definitely not freedom. And it is not like people in Spain, France, China or Japan don't have cars - they do. They only drive when it makes sense (off peak, to areas where the trains don't go etc).
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Old 07-03-2015, 02:09 PM
 
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Driving is fine, but being stuck in traffic regularly twice a day at the same time every single working day between the age 23 and 65 is not fine.

Additionally, trains usually arrive on time regardless of traffic conditions. Cars can be highly unpredictable. A 4 miles trip can take 15 minutes, or an hour.

Many Americans have this illusion that because they drive, they have more "freedom" - really? Is your entire life being chained to a car "freedom"? Being able to drive is freedom, but having to drive everywhere you need to - that's definitely not freedom. And it is not like people in Spain, France, China or Japan don't have cars - they do. They only drive when it makes sense (off peak, to areas where the trains don't go etc).
You can pretty much go everywhere with a car, there are more roads than train lines... but they are just so expensive. buying the car, gas, maintenance, etc... its most peoples second most expensive possession.... getting rid of it all together would save people oodles of money.
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Old 07-03-2015, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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You can pretty much go everywhere with a car, there are more roads than train lines... but they are just so expensive. buying the car, gas, maintenance, etc... its most peoples second most expensive possession.... getting rid of it all together would save people oodles of money.
I agree not to mention cities designed for pedestrians have a much higher quality of life than suburban environments where you are forced by default to drive.
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Old 07-05-2015, 04:32 AM
 
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And it is not like people in Spain, France, China or Japan don't have cars - they do. They only drive when it makes sense (off peak, to areas where the trains don't go etc).
I've just checked a report written by Ministry of land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism, and found that average driving mileage per year in Japan is about 10000 kilo meters. Recent years, it's less than 10000 km.

In the US, it's 13 476 miles (= 21 687.5197 km according to google).
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Old 07-07-2015, 10:55 AM
 
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I've just checked a report written by Ministry of land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism, and found that average driving mileage per year in Japan is about 10000 kilo meters. Recent years, it's less than 10000 km.

In the US, it's 13 476 miles (= 21 687.5197 km according to google).
Not surprising that people in countries with excellent transport infrastructure will drive less. Imagine if it takes 2 hours for a high speed tran to travel between SF and LA, how many people will still drive that eight hours.
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Old 07-07-2015, 12:43 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Not surprising that people in countries with excellent transport infrastructure will drive less. Imagine if it takes 2 hours for a high speed tran to travel between SF and LA, how many people will still drive that eight hours.
Or a DC to Boston route in 3 hours with all major cities of Baltimore, Philadelphia, and NYC served in between. It'd probably have a shot at becoming the busiest route in the world.
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Old 07-08-2015, 04:02 AM
 
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Not surprising that people in countries with excellent transport infrastructure will drive less. Imagine if it takes 2 hours for a high speed tran to travel between SF and LA, how many people will still drive that eight hours.
Depends on how much they charge for that train ride. We can usually get from SF to LA in about 5 1/2 hours (of course that depends where your start and end points are). One big reason why it's easier to just drive that 5 1/2 hours, as opposed to a plane ride, (going to/from the airport, the waiting time, etc. can add up to 3 hours or more from door to door), is because the public transportation in LA sucks. One most likely will need a car in LA anyway, so just bring your own and save the plane fare. The savings is substantial if 4 people share a car. If they have high speed rail in the future, the high speed train station in LA will probably still have rental car counters . In the US, the best bet for high speed trains is the Boswash Corridor. The Acela Express is just too slow compared to Japanese or Chinese high speed trains. High speed rail does have the potential to replace most other modes of transportation. Taiwan's high speed rail pretty much replaced most domestic flights. There used to be Taipei to Kaohsiung plane service, but not anymore.
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