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Old 07-12-2015, 07:29 AM
 
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Do the countries in South East Asia give preference to China or Japan? In your opinion are the people pro Japan or China? (if there is such a thing)

I read that Vietnam and China are historical enemies, but I don´t know if Japan Invaded Vietnam.
In wikipedia it says that Singapore have Mandarin as one of the official languages so I guess that they might have a lot of influence from Chinese culture.
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:18 AM
 
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What do you mean by preference? Historically Japan was an imperial power from overseas while Chinese immigrants influenced many other regions. But with the Cold War it depended upon where the nations stood in relation to China, the Soviets and the free West

Japan invaded the Vichy (after the surrender to Germany) French Indochina/Vietnam in 1940 to secure their flank in operations against China
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:27 AM
 
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I wouldn't say any are pro China or pro Japan. Asian countries are mostly nationalistic and many don't have very good relationships with each other.

Vietnam and China were allies at one time and both communist countries. Recently relations have been tense, at one time in the last year or 2 China pulled everyone out of Vietnam and started massing military near the border.

With the S. China Sea fiasco all relationships are somewhat tense right now.
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Old 07-12-2015, 09:12 AM
 
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Thailand overall is more pro-Japan despite nearly 20% of the population having Chinese ancestors.


"According to a 2014 BBC World Service Poll, the opinion of China among Indonesians remains strongly positive and stable, with 52% of positive view compared to 28% expressing a negative view"

"70% of Indonesians view Japan's influence positively, with 14% expressing a negative view, making Indonesia one of the most pro-Japanese countries in the world"
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Old 07-12-2015, 02:58 PM
 
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China during the late Qing dynasty did try to help Vietnam to push out the French but failed. Chinese dynasties ruled Vietnam for about 1000 years before it became independent, therefore Vietnamese culture is much more Chinese influenced compared with other Southeast Asian countries. Vietnam has the highest usage of chopsticks among all Southeast Asian countries. Modern conflicts are mainly territorial disputes.

Japan invaded Vietnam but only for a few years during world war 2, and commited much less war crimes there than in China and elsewhere, like the Phillippines and Singapore.

Singapore adopted Mandarin and simplified Chinese as an official language to unit all ethnic Chinese with different dialects to speak a single standard Chinese. About 3 quarters of all Singaporeans are ethnic Chinese descended from immigrants from Guangdong and Fujian. These happened long before Singapore established relations with China.
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Old 07-12-2015, 09:15 PM
 
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According to BBC World Service poll, Japan is one of the most popular countries in the world.

I think only Pakistan is overall positive to China.
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:42 PM
 
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Do the countries in South East Asia give preference to China or Japan? In your opinion are the people pro Japan or China? (if there is such a thing)

I read that Vietnam and China are historical enemies, but I don´t know if Japan Invaded Vietnam.
In wikipedia it says that Singapore have Mandarin as one of the official languages so I guess that they might have a lot of influence from Chinese culture.
Actually, Singapore also have been heavily influenced by other cultures too, not just Chinese culture.

me and many of my friends (at least in my social circles) hardly eat Chinese food every week. In fact, i actually don't each plain Chinese rice anymore, I eat more roti prata, and nasi briyani. Fish head curry, a food craze of Singaporeans, is actually from India. I can speak phrases of Malay and Tamil.

But seriously, the countries in South East Asia give neither preference to China or Japan; more realistically, what kind of benefits or preference can one nation get from allying itself with another nation?

it is not about love, but is about survival and how a nation can heighten it's own chances of survival.
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Old 07-12-2015, 10:48 PM
 
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Actually, Singapore also have been heavily influenced by other cultures too, not just Chinese culture.

me and many of my friends (at least in my social circles) hardly eat Chinese food every week. In fact, i actually don't each plain Chinese rice anymore, I eat more roti prata, and nasi briyani. Fish head curry, a food craze of Singaporeans, is actually from India. I can speak phrases of Malay and Tamil.

But seriously, the countries in South East Asia give neither preference to China or Japan; more realistically, what kind of benefits or preference can one nation get from allying itself with another nation?

it is not about love, but is about survival and how a nation can heighten it's own chances of survival.
Well you are not chinese by race right ?

I guess a lot depends on what race you are.. Chinese Singaporeans would probably be heavily influenced by Chinese cultures, Malays by Malay customs etc.

however much people say singapore is multi racial etc, there is still some distinguishment and separation by race in our minds.

The recent MRT incident, people noted that it was a chinese teenager victim and a Malay guy who confronted the white guy.. We still care about race
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Old 07-12-2015, 11:01 PM
 
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Younger generations of SE Asians and those who know little about history are very fond of Japanese pop culture. Japanese pop culture (which is largely derived/copied from American pop culture), influences the youth in many other Asian countries, though I think this is declining. I think South Korean pop culture is somewhat replacing Japan in terms of influence. Older folks and anyone with knowledge of history at all resent or even hate Japan (the politicians mainly, not the general population) on some level, especially in countries that Japan occupied (obviously). I think that many SE Asians would prefer to do business with China over Japan, if given a choice.

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Old 07-13-2015, 01:18 AM
 
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Well you are not chinese by race right ?

I guess a lot depends on what race you are.. Chinese Singaporeans would probably be heavily influenced by Chinese cultures, Malays by Malay customs etc.

however much people say singapore is multi racial etc, there is still some distinguishment and separation by race in our minds.

The recent MRT incident, people noted that it was a chinese teenager victim and a Malay guy who confronted the white guy.. We still care about race
Actually, on my NRIC, my ethnicity is Chinese but inside my heart, I consider myself to be Singaporean only.

When people ask me if I am Chinese, I say "I am Singaporean".
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