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Old 12-01-2015, 12:04 AM
 
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Dont the Russian feel having a Pacific port and a pacific coast as an important strategic advantage? Look at the US. Both big oceans. How can Putin not treat Vladivostok better? He be a fool not too.
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:33 AM
 
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This city will be Chinese pretty soon anyway, and it belongs to China anyway historically.
You can make the same case for Mongolia (which China has an even better claim to since most Mongols live in China) yet with the exception of some fringe elements, no one is clamoring to annex Mongolia. China has no interest in the Russian Far East (they don't even invest in that region) and quite frankly going after that area would turn everyone in that region against China including North Korea (North Koreans have always been somewhat suspicious of Chinese intentions in their country). It is honestly more trouble than it is worth. Besides China already settled border disputes with Russia so they can focus on other areas.
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:13 AM
 
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Dont the Russian feel having a Pacific port and a pacific coast as an important strategic advantage? Look at the US. Both big oceans. How can Putin not treat Vladivostok better? He be a fool not too.
Have you not read any of my links, Russia is investing a lot of money as well as attracting foreign investment for this region. They are even going to give away free land in the Russian Far East to any Russian citizen to attract more people and businesses.
https://www.rt.com/politics/322404-g...-bill-on-free/
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Old 12-01-2015, 03:29 AM
 
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You can make the same case for Mongolia (which China has an even better claim to since most Mongols live in China) yet with the exception of some fringe elements, no one is clamoring to annex Mongolia. China has no interest in the Russian Far East (they don't even invest in that region) and quite frankly going after that area would turn everyone in that region against China including North Korea (North Koreans have always been somewhat suspicious of Chinese intentions in their country). It is honestly more trouble than it is worth. Besides China already settled border disputes with Russia so they can focus on other areas.
I agree with you politically. Sure China wont officially make any demands for it. But given the population imbalance across the border, and Chinese ingenuity vs Russian slovenliness, it's a matter of time before the whole area is Chinese. It was part of the Qing empire and so it can come back to China naturally. No one will fight over it, but it will happen gradually. This is also true with Outer Mongolia.
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Old 12-01-2015, 04:32 AM
 
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This city will be Chinese pretty soon anyway, and it belongs to China anyway historically.
Doesn't it all?
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:08 AM
 
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It's too darn cold over there.
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Old 12-01-2015, 09:04 AM
 
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I agree with you politically. Sure China wont officially make any demands for it. But given the population imbalance across the border, and Chinese ingenuity vs Russian slovenliness, it's a matter of time before the whole area is Chinese. It was part of the Qing empire and so it can come back to China naturally. No one will fight over it, but it will happen gradually. This is also true with Outer Mongolia.
Well it hasn't happened yet, and problems won't in the next hundred years. There less than half a million ethnic Chinese living in all of Russia and majority of which live in Moscow. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethn...nese_in_Russia
Russia won't just open its boarders and let tens of millions of Chinese move in.
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Old 12-01-2015, 10:46 AM
 
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Dont the Russian feel having a Pacific port and a pacific coast as an important strategic advantage? Look at the US. Both big oceans. How can Putin not treat Vladivostok better? He be a fool not too.
they know the strategic value of warm water port that's why they established Vladisvtok
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Old 12-01-2015, 11:37 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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The city of Vladivostok doesn't experience flooding it's a very hilly city on the edge of a peninsula. You are thinking of more inland cities such as Khabarovsk and Ussuriysk.
No, I'm not. I've been in Vlad when there's been very bad flooding, and people said it was pretty much an annual phenomenon. Khabarovsk has never had a problem with chronic flooding, on the other hand. Floods have been pretty rare, there.
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Old 12-01-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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Well it hasn't happened yet, and problems won't in the next hundred years. There less than half a million ethnic Chinese living in all of Russia and majority of which live in Moscow. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethn...nese_in_Russia
Russia won't just open its boarders and let tens of millions of Chinese move in.
Doesn't the complete absence of Chinese immigrants in the Russian Far East tell people anything? It tells you that no one wants to live there due to the lack of significant economic activity.
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