Jakarta VS Bangkok VS Manila (places, culture, airport, best)

[Michiko_shanyang]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

Well, I hope it races towards number 1 as I also hope with Manila's system. I think a bit of competitive spirit is good in this regard.

As it stands, Bangkok certainly beats both Jakarta and Manila. It'd be great if Bangkok massively improved and yet Jakarta and Manila still beat Bangkok on this metric, because that means the whole region has done better.

yeah I think so ...

[OyCrumbler]

Originally Posted by ilovelondon

But Kuala Lumpur's public transport is very good as well. Probably on par with Bangkok's. But of course, none of them can beat Singapore's .

Yes, Kuala Lumpur's is better given the population size and Singapore's is definitively the best in the region. I don't think anyone would argue otherwise. It'd be amazing if the other major SEA cities had systems that gave Singapore's a run for its money.

[winnycaritta]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

It’s very good that Jakarta and Manila are expandinf their mass transit systems! In this regard, Bangkok is distinctly doing better than either and will be for the foreseeable future.

pinoys will keep defending their city better than other city.. arrogant

[Michiko_shanyang]

Originally Posted by winnycaritta

pinoys will keep defending their city better than other city.. arrogant

let it their are always like that

[neMarL]

Beacuse it is better in some aspects. How about Jakarta, what aspects can it boost that makes it better than other SEA tier cities?

[Michiko_shanyang]

Originally Posted by neMarL

Beacuse it is better in some aspects. How about Jakarta, what aspects can it boost that makes it better than other SEA tier cities?

this is what makes Jakarta better than Manila


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FmYFVpDQ8Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Ce_LQBwV4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CeSthWmDcI

[Michiko_shanyang]

Jakarta Street Food & Market on the outskirts of Jakarta ( not in area CBD )



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1NK0tuCLYo



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfE-000GUGU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEB3QIFTAU4

[OyCrumbler]

Originally Posted by Michiko_shanyang

this is what makes Jakarta better than Manila


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FmYFVpDQ8Y


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Ce_LQBwV4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CeSthWmDcI

Does Jakarta actually have better transit infrastructure than Manila right now? Do either of them have better transit infrastructure than Bangkok?

[manolopo]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

Does Jakarta actually have better transit infrastructure than Manila right now? Do either of them have better transit infrastructure than Bangkok?

I would say Jakarta has better transit than Manila. Indonesia in general has traditionally been a more train-riding society than the Philippines.

Jakarta has 6 commuter (heavy rail) lines, covering 418 km. An airport link train link (54 km), and an airport skytrain (3 km). Plus it's opening an LRT line (6 km) and an MRT line (16 km) in March. So that's 475 km of train currently, extending to 497 km soon. Then there's the BRT (231 km)

Manila has 1 commuter line (56 km), 2 LRT lines (34 km total, extending to 38 km this year), 1 MRT line (17 km), and opening up another MRT line within a year (another 23 km). So currently 107 km of trains in Manila, extending to 134 km in a year's time. Manila also has a river ferry line (28 km)

When it comes to daily ridership:

Jakarta:
KRL Commuter lines- 1 million
Soekarno–Hatta Airport Rail Link- 33,000 at full capacity
MRT- 173,400 (future estimate)
LRT- 76,140 (future estimate)
= 1.2~1.3 million, including the lines that will open up this year

Manila:
LRT1- 500,000
LRT2- 200,000
MRT- 560,000
PNR- 50,000
= 1.3 million currently

and then the MRT7 will add 450,000 (future estimate)

So both cities have around the same amount of train passengers.

Besides trains, the BRT in Jakarta has almost 700,000 daily riders. Manila doesnt have a BRT, but 1.3 million ride buses daily. A BRT would be nice. Many of the buses in Manila are nice, especially the P2P buses. but they dont have a dedicated lane like the BRT.


Manila just started construction on an additional commuter line (expected to be complete by 2022), and 2 subway lines (supposed to be complete by 2025) but we'll see how long it really takes.



TLDR- Jakarta has a more extensive train system and a more organized bus system. But Manila has more passengers using trains and buses.

[Michiko_shanyang]

Originally Posted by OyCrumbler

Does Jakarta actually have better transit infrastructure than Manila right now? Do either of them have better transit infrastructure than Bangkok?

yeah comparing transportation infrastructure both cities of Jakarta are better than Manila and Jakarta compared to Bangkok maybe Bangkok is better than JKT, but Jakarta has a better transportation system like BRT, and at the end of this month MRT & LRT will soon operate for the public