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Old 08-12-2015, 07:28 AM
 
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That's probably not correct.

According to the 2010 US Census ( https://ask.census.gov/faq.php?id=5000&faqId=5971 ), the urban areas of the United States contain 249,253,271 people, representing 80.7% of the population, and rural areas contain 59,492,276 people, or 19.3% of the population.
you think urban area means walkable areas? Really?

The entire Los Angeles, Atlanta or Houston metro areas are urban, how much of them are walkable? I used to live at Palms area in west LA, and there is nothing walkable about it. Going to the nearest grocery store is a 10-15 minutes drive.

Even 10% probably is a vast overestimation.

 
Old 08-12-2015, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Brussels
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I envy some aspects of Japan (from my European perspective):

- Shop display and customer service --> way better than in Europe, better than in the US
- Availability of 24/7 shops/restaurants in big cities ---> way better than in Europe.
- Gardens, temples and general Japanese people respect for those
- Train and metro systems
- Great and unexpensive food everywhere

What I surely dont envy is:
- Long working hours and short holidays ---> I do 38 hours per week and 28 days paid holidays/year + unlimited sick days
- From what I heard, oppresive exigent groupal society (I guess Europe is in between Japan and the US in this one)
 
Old 08-12-2015, 12:45 PM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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Moreover, even in areas where Americans ride rather than walk, they could (and probably should) walk more often. Often driving rather than walking is a decision and not a necessity.
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No thanks
 
Old 08-12-2015, 01:30 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Yes i am going to ride in my motorized cart all over Wal Mart because that is how we roll in the suburbs now worry about your urban paradises and let us do our own thing
 
Old 08-12-2015, 01:33 PM
 
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Why would you? They all are different. If you are capable of handling the crowd of Tokyo, go ahead. Give me empty roads of USA any day.
 
Old 08-12-2015, 01:34 PM
 
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That's probably not correct.

According to the 2010 US Census ( https://ask.census.gov/faq.php?id=5000&faqId=5971 ), the urban areas of the United States contain 249,253,271 people, representing 80.7% of the population, and rural areas contain 59,492,276 people, or 19.3% of the population.
Suburbs are included in urban areas, and a large majority of people who live in urban areas live in the Suburbs. so 70 percent of that 80 percent most likely live in suburban environments.

Maybe 10 to 15 percent live in big cities, and big city does not equal "urban/walkable"
 
Old 08-12-2015, 01:39 PM
 
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isn't that for the disabled only?
 
Old 08-12-2015, 06:53 PM
 
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you think urban area means walkable areas? Really?
Uh. Urban areas are typically walkable. Nothing is absolute. But, yes. Urban areas are generally walkable.

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The entire Los Angeles, Atlanta or Houston metro areas are urban, how much of them are walkable? I used to live at Palms area in west LA, and there is nothing walkable about it. Going to the nearest grocery store is a 10-15 minutes drive.

Even 10% probably is a vast overestimation.
Well, aren't you the expert, then?

I've lived in many places in the US and traveled extensively in the US. Much of the US, far more than 10%, is walkable. Maybe you just don't like to walk much?

You made the 10% claim. Unless you can back it up with some proof, just drop it.
 
Old 08-12-2015, 06:55 PM
 
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Japan is by far the world leader in technology and has huge buildings.

They eat very healthy food and live longer then the rest of the world.

Do you think Americans and Europeans secretly envy their lifestyle? Maybe they are a model of what a society should be like.

Just throwing this idea out there and you guys can toss some ideas back. Sort of like playing catch.
They work 60 hours per week.
 
Old 08-12-2015, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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They work 60 hours per week.
So that means they have a better work ethic than most americans. I envy there superior work ethic.
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