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Old 08-15-2015, 02:11 AM
 
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Both Japan and Germany have apologized ad nauseam. No matter what nation has had terrible things done to them by another, they have also done horrible things to others. No one nation is innocent. Well, maybe Andorra . . . But, I bet they have done horrible things to sheep!
Oh please, take that back before another Twitter lynch mob is unleashed.

 
Old 08-15-2015, 03:42 AM
 
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Yuan is a Chinese dynasty, no problem. But the ruler of that time was not a Chinese, and didn't follow Chinese tradition in many ways. The Mongols were famous invaders.
I don't care who was the ruler at all.

China should apologize for what Yuan did to Japan, if Japan should to China.
 
Old 08-15-2015, 03:29 PM
 
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I don't care who was the ruler at all.

China should apologize for what Yuan did to Japan, if Japan should to China.
Yuan invasion failed both times. What is there to apologize? China gave japan art, culture, architecture, writing koi, bonsai, the kimono etc etc etc. Japan gave China invasion, "Three All", destruction, colonialism, slaughter, medical experiments, head chopping competitions etc etc etc. Who owns who an apology?

By the way, the ODA loans from japan was a pittance compared to the destruction caused by the japanese invasion. Give it a rest.
 
Old 08-15-2015, 07:00 PM
 
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Yuan invasion failed both times. What is there to apologize? China gave japan art, culture, architecture, writing koi, bonsai, the kimono etc etc etc. Japan gave China invasion, "Three All", destruction, colonialism, slaughter, medical experiments, head chopping competitions etc etc etc. Who owns who an apology?
Japan invasion failed either. What is there to apologize then? Fair enough.

Oh, you don't know who invented the "Three All". It was KMT. 三 means Three and 光 All in Chinese. 光 doesn't mean All in Japanese.

Head chopping competitions were fake. Asahi Shimbun always does those fake reports, including comfort women. Asahi Shimbun has even admitted the reports about comfort women are fake. What do you expect from Ashahi Shimbun?

BTW, do you know how Sun Yat-sen is called in Taiwan? They call him 孫中山先生. Where does the 中山 come from? It's a Japanese surname. Why don't you read Names of Sun Yat-sen? 中山路 is one of the most popular names for roads in both China and Taiwan.

And many more loanwords from Japanese are used in Chinese, such as republic, revolution, police, economics, popular, whitening, otaku and many more. If those loanwords from Japanese were banned today, Chinese people couldn't make normal conversations in Chinese.
 
Old 08-15-2015, 07:04 PM
 
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China is now complaining about the order when Abe has named the neighbor countries:

Taiwan, Korea and China
 
Old 08-15-2015, 07:06 PM
 
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China is run by criminals.
 
Old 08-15-2015, 07:14 PM
 
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But, not only did the current Chinese and Korean governments not make public Japan's contributions to their countries to their own people, but they continue to stir up anti-Japanese sentiments in the education system.
It is interesting for me to hear both countries don't admit there are any anti-Japanese sentiments in their education systems.

BTW, I love one dialogue in a Chinese drama:

"My grandfather was killed by Japanese when he was 7 years old!"
 
Old 08-15-2015, 07:40 PM
 
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Japan invasion failed either. What is there to apologize then? Fair enough.

Oh, you don't know who invented the "Three All". It was KMT. 三 means Three and 光 All in Chinese. 光 doesn't mean All in Japanese.

Head chopping competitions were fake. Asahi Shimbun always does those fake reports, including comfort women. Asahi Shimbun has even admitted the reports about comfort women are fake. What do you expect from Ashahi Shimbun?

BTW, do you know how Sun Yat-sen is called in Taiwan? They call him 孫中山先生. Where does the 中山 come from? It's a Japanese surname. Why don't you read Names of Sun Yat-sen? 中山路 is one of the most popular names for roads in both China and Taiwan.

And many more loanwords from Japanese are used in Chinese, such as republic, revolution, police, economics, popular, whitening, otaku and many more. If those loanwords from Japanese were banned today, Chinese people couldn't make normal conversations in Chinese.

OMG I can't believe you would equate the improvised Chinese haphazard attempt at modernization by mimicking Japanese modern terms with the Japanese intellectual and cultural borrowing from China. One is only a misguided and headlong last ditch effort to make China modern so as to maintain its sovereignty in the face of western imperialism, and the other actually defined Japan's very culture and soul....Japan's debt to China is far far larger than whatever you think China owes Japan.....ROFLOL!!!!

By the way, Sun was a naive dreamer. He could never have been a real and effective leader even if he had lived longer.

And Asashi Shimbun's fake story? Sounds a lot like some Holocaust denialist argument....
 
Old 08-15-2015, 07:42 PM
 
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China is now complaining about the order when Abe has named the neighbor countries:

Taiwan, Korea and China
Of course, Abe has absolutely no intention of apologizing to China. Why should he? China is about to take his little islands with some feral goats on it away from him.....

China is stupid to even care about a two face apology that means absolutely nothing.
 
Old 08-15-2015, 09:35 PM
 
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OMG I can't believe you would equate the improvised Chinese haphazard attempt at modernization by mimicking Japanese modern terms with the Japanese intellectual and cultural borrowing from China. One is only a misguided and headlong last ditch effort to make China modern so as to maintain its sovereignty in the face of western imperialism, and the other actually defined Japan's very culture and soul....Japan's debt to China is far far larger than whatever you think China owes Japan.....ROFLOL!!!!
That's your opinion. You keep yours.

Chinese can't say their country name, PROC, without a loanword from Japanese. It is huge debt if you will. This is my opinion.

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By the way, Sun was a naive dreamer. He could never have been a real and effective leader even if he had lived longer.
He is the father of ROC after all, whatever you call him.

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And Asashi Shimbun's fake story? Sounds a lot like some Holocaust denialist argument....
It's not your fault even if you believe any kind of propaganda. Everyone does.
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