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Old 09-21-2015, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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The manner in which the dolphins are killed looks brutal it looks like these particular dolphins die a slow miserable death.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw_JhFNdFGk
All animals harvested for meat are killed brutally. I could find a video of a chicken slaughterhouse with ominous music and that could make killing chickens look bad. There is nothing wrong with whaling or harvesting dolphins for meat. I am sure the Japanese follow strict standards when it comes to hunting to keep the population in check.
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:43 AM
 
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Yanagisawa obviously is in favor of the gathering and senseless slaughter of the dolphins. To each their own I guess...

I stand against it. Why? Not for religion - I have no clue what that aspect has to do with this - but for need.

Why is it still needed today? Maybe hundreds of years ago when life was much more primitive and food wasn't readily available, but today? With supermarkets and grocery stores all over the place, what's the point? What kind of "tradition" teaches their people to go and slaughter innocent marine mammals for... what? Why? I don't get it...

I'm imagining how a parent would be addressing this to their kids..

"So exciting! Today we get to go to the bay and join in the killing of the dolphins!"

"Why mommy? Did they do something bad to the village?"

"What's the matter with you? These dolphins are (insert archaic and stupid reason here - the reincarnation of the boogey monster, etc.) so they need to be eliminated and eaten! It's been something your forefathers have been doing for hundreds of years so it is not our place to QUESTION it!"

"Oh, okay mommy, let's go kill dolphins! Yay!!!"
that's some ridiculous argument.

What is need? Do Americans NEED to eat millions of tons of beef every year? I don't think so. No one will die or become malnutritioned for not eating beef.

You are personally against only because it is not your culture and you don't see the point of killing dolphins. The Hindus don't see the point of killing and eating cows either, why don't you think of that?

Nobody seems to answer this question.
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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The manner in which the dolphins are killed looks brutal it looks like these particular dolphins die a slow miserable death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw_JhFNdFGk
yeah, I am sure all the cows and chickens killed in the west died with a smile on their faces.

Animal cruelty is despicable, but let's not pretend that "the way we kill animals against their will for the protein is so much nobler". That's laughable.
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:39 AM
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yeah, I am sure all the cows and chickens killed in the west died with a smile on their faces.

Animal cruelty is despicable, but let's not pretend that "the way we kill animals against their will for the protein is so much nobler". That's laughable.

I have seen videos of the slaughtering methods of Cows and how chickens are handled prior to slaughter I don't agree with those methods. How does that make the video I posted laughable? I fail to see the humor.
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:53 PM
 
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I have seen videos of the slaughtering methods of Cows and how chickens are handled prior to slaughter I don't agree with those methods. How does that make the video I posted laughable? I fail to see the humor.
He did not say that the video you posted is laughable. He stated that pretending that "the way we kill animals against their will for the protein is so much nobler" is laughable.
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Old 09-21-2015, 09:22 PM
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He did not say that the video you posted is laughable. He stated that pretending that "the way we kill animals against their will for the protein is so much nobler" is laughable.
Yes I see that now thanks.
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Old 09-21-2015, 09:55 PM
 
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Animal cruelty is despicable, but let's not pretend that "the way we kill animals against their will for the protein is so much nobler". That's laughable.
This.

Actually Americans kill whales which belong to endangered species every year as well.
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Old 09-21-2015, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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I'm a vegetarian, so I think the lot ofnyou are sick

Seriously though... go look up what a "chick macerator" is and you'll see that barbarism towards animals that we think of as cute and cuddly isn't isolated to Asian nations.
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Old 09-21-2015, 10:37 PM
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This.

Actually Americans kill whales which belong to endangered species every year as well.
I believe you are referring to Whale hunting by Alaska natives in nine communities they hunt 75 whales yearly. The practice has much opposition. However they have much more respect for the animals they kill than the Japanese dolphin hunters who appear to have absolutely no regard that dolphins are sentient. They also are unable to raise beef/chickens etc. where they live.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAqEK7K5oCQ

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Old 09-22-2015, 04:08 AM
 
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I believe you are referring to Whale hunting by Alaska natives in nine communities they hunt 75 whales yearly. The practice has much opposition. However they have much more respect for the animals they kill than the Japanese dolphin hunters who appear to have absolutely no regard that dolphins are sentient. They also are unable to raise beef/chickens etc. where they live.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAqEK7K5oCQ
The species is in danger of extinction. How do you feel about that?
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