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Old 09-22-2015, 04:11 AM
 
Location: Asia
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Yes I see that now thanks.
No problem.
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Old 09-22-2015, 04:19 AM
 
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I'm a vegetarian, so I think the lot ofnyou are sick
Vegetarians still kill plants anyways...

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Seriously though... go look up what a "chick macerator" is and you'll see that barbarism towards animals that we think of as cute and cuddly isn't isolated to Asian nations.
Awww... I wish I hadn't searched the word...

BTW, I can't eat foie gras since I had learned how to produce that.
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Old 09-22-2015, 05:13 AM
 
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This.
Actually Americans kill whales which belong to endangered species every year as well.
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The species is in danger of extinction. How do you feel about that?
That is why there is the International Whaling Commission:

https://iwc.int/home

http://us.whales.org/wdc-in-action/whaling
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Old 09-22-2015, 06:56 AM
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All animals harvested for meat are killed brutally. I could find a video of a chicken slaughterhouse with ominous music and that could make killing chickens look bad. There is nothing wrong with whaling or harvesting dolphins for meat. I am sure the Japanese follow strict standards when it comes to hunting to keep the population in check.
It depends how you define brutal(I would define the slaughter of those dolphins as gross brutality no effort is being made to prevent needless suffering during the slaughtering process, the fishermen are entirely focused on efficiency), some countries do have humane slaughter laws although not always enforced and some laws need to be more robust with stiffer penalties. At least in the USA if one has a humane handling concern or complaint one can contact a USDA Humane Handling Ombudsman and contact the media to apply pressure whereas in Japan people mostly like to go with the flow and not be the nail that sticks and and gets hammered.
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Old 09-22-2015, 08:44 PM
 
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That is why there is the International Whaling Commission:

https://iwc.int/home

http://us.whales.org/wdc-in-action/whaling
The organization would do much better if it was managed based on scientific researches, not politics.
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Old 09-23-2015, 04:34 AM
 
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It depends how you define brutal(I would define the slaughter of those dolphins as gross brutality no effort is being made to prevent needless suffering during the slaughtering process, the fishermen are entirely focused on efficiency), some countries do have humane slaughter laws although not always enforced and some laws need to be more robust with stiffer penalties. At least in the USA if one has a humane handling concern or complaint one can contact a USDA Humane Handling Ombudsman and contact the media to apply pressure whereas in Japan people mostly like to go with the flow and not be the nail that sticks and and gets hammered.
To be honest, I am tired of this kind of excuses made by Americans.

Not long time ago, I read someone wrote something like: Hey, we oppose what the government has been doing, so there should be no problems with its killing people abroad.
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Old 09-23-2015, 06:20 AM
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To be honest, I am tired of this kind of excuses made by Americans.

Not long time ago, I read someone wrote something like: Hey, we oppose what the government has been doing, so there should be no problems with its killing people abroad.
You are having difficulty focusing on the issue at hand which is the slaughter of dolphins by the Japanese for consumption and the manner in which the dolphins are slaughtered that is what is being discussed please try to focus, it appears that you don't have a sensible logical argument to refute my statement on mitigating the unnecessary suffering of animals during slaughter therefore you have opted to engage in a sidebar conversation that is unrelated, if you wish to discuss your views on the US gov't policies abroad the discussion would be more productive if you started a new thread because it isn't pertinent to the issue at hand and only serves to derail the momentum of the current discussion.
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Old 09-23-2015, 01:57 PM
 
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The organization would do much better if it was managed based on scientific researches, not politics.
Right, what would a marine biologist know

Still Think Humans are the Most Intelligent Animals? Here’s Why Whales and Dolphins Have us Beat | One Green Planet


Dolphin approached scuba diver for help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gvgkHSyKFE


They help the US Navy, have saved people from shark attacks, have communication skills,
etc.....
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Old 09-23-2015, 03:36 PM
 
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No sense in arguing with japanese and japanese apologists (and strangely, their Chinese friends who want to hide behind the Japanese slaughtering of dolphins to keep butchering dogs/cats in Chinese street alleys!). Just keep funding Greenpeace is the best way.
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Old 09-23-2015, 05:47 PM
 
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Dolphins are mammals and everything. I know. But I was raised in a coastal community eating seafood, which I love to this day. If it comes from the ocean, I'll eat it. And to be totally honest, if I saw dolphin steaks being sold at the supermarket grocery, I'd cook them and eat them too.
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