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Old 04-24-2017, 09:50 AM
 
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India did split up.

In 1947/48 both Pakistan and East Bengal (now Bangladesh) seperated from India, whilst Ceylon (Sri Lanka) was also seperate.

The Bloody Legacy of Indian Partition - The New Yorker

BBC - History - British History in depth: The Hidden Story of Partition and its Legacies

Murder, rape and shattered families: 1947 Partition Archive effort underway

Partition of India - Wikipedia

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Old 04-25-2017, 02:20 AM
 
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India didn't split up. Britain split it up before it departed. Its screws over other countries every time it can.
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:12 AM
 
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India didn't split up. Britain split it up before it departed. Its screws over other countries every time it can.
The partition occurred when Britain relinquished India, if anything Britain kept India together under Empire despite religious differences.

The reason India split was ulitmately to do with religion and more specifically the Muslims who formed Pakistan, and the Hindus who formed the vast majority of the population of India.

Although the Hindus themselves had the dreadful caste system which caused untold misery.
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Old 04-25-2017, 03:59 AM
 
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India didn't split up. Britain split it up before it departed. Its screws over other countries every time it can.
Implying that India was actually a thing before Britain arrived? The partition was a nasty business, but it's important to understand the reasons behind it. It probably prevented a series of devastating sectarian conflicts.
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Old 04-25-2017, 04:30 AM
 
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The partition occurred when Britain relinquished India, if anything Britain kept India together under Empire despite religious differences.

The reason India split was ulitmately to do with religion and more specifically the Muslims who formed Pakistan, and the Hindus who formed the vast majority of the population of India.

Although the Hindus themselves had the dreadful caste system which caused untold misery.
Nah. If the UK just let the Indians to sort it out, it would have been much better.
You should ask any Indians, instead of sticking to your western side of the story. The UK was a nightmare to India from Day 1 until the day they left.
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Old 04-25-2017, 04:37 AM
 
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Nah. If the UK just let the Indians to sort it out, it would have been much better.
You should ask any Indians, instead of sticking to your western side of the story. The UK was a nightmare to India from Day 1 until the day they left.
I think you'll find that there was a great deal of support within India for the partition, which is why it happened. Anti-British revisionism tends to ignore this.
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Old 04-26-2017, 04:13 AM
 
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I think you'll find that there was a great deal of support within India for the partition, which is why it happened. Anti-British revisionism tends to ignore this.
This site is full of that, usually from our Euro 'friends' (surprise surprise). I think they watch films like Braveheart and consider them historically accurate.
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Old 04-26-2017, 04:27 AM
 
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This site is full of that, usually from our Euro 'friends' (surprise surprise). I think they watch films like Braveheart and consider them historically accurate.


Totally Agree - the religous differences and caste system in India were nothing to do with Britain and much of the country was actually run by Indian Royalty in the form of regional princes known as Maharajas, who ran the provinces, these Indian rulers and local leaders by creating new princely states and expanding existing boundaries. The British Empire was about trade, and we did improve transport links in India through the railways and ports.

BBC - History - British History in depth: From Empire to Independence: The British Raj in India 1858-1947

In terms of the EU, I don't see any connection with India which was bound together by not only the British but powerful Maharajas who had significant powers and their own armies.

As for Europeans talking about the past, I would be very careful if I were them, or have they forgotten the other major events of the 20th Century.

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Old 04-26-2017, 05:38 AM
 
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I think you'll find that there was a great deal of support within India for the partition, which is why it happened. Anti-British revisionism tends to ignore this.
First, it is not Britain's job to separate India.
Second, they did a very sloppy job on very tight schedule. The person who drew the borderline (dont remember his name) had never been to India. What do you think will happen?
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:08 AM
 
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First, it is not Britain's job to separate India.
Second, they did a very sloppy job on very tight schedule. The person who drew the borderline (dont remember his name) had never been to India. What do you think will happen?
The Muslim League of India advocated the idea of Pakistan in its annual session in 1930 and not the British.

The alternative post British withdrawl would have been a long and protracted bloody civil war, possible killing millions.
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