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Old 11-02-2015, 06:32 PM
 
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The former Mexican ambassador to China compares the PRC today to Mexico in the 1980s and 1990s, when that country was similarly percieved as being on the rise, comparing the CCP to the PRI, Bo Xilai to Cuahtehmoc Cardenas, and China's current economic crisis to that of Mexico's at the end of Carlos Salinas' sexenio.

Personally I think the comparison is a bit strained, considering that Mexico did not have nukes, was not a threat to other nations, and while certainly having risen had not surpassed the US economically. Still, the comparison is interesting. I'd be interested in getting any of your reactions.
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Old 11-02-2015, 07:51 PM
 
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The former Mexican ambassador to China compares the PRC today to Mexico in the 1980s and 1990s, when that country was similarly percieved as being on the rise, comparing the CCP to the PRI, Bo Xilai to Cuahtehmoc Cardenas, and China's current economic crisis to that of Mexico's at the end of Carlos Salinas' sexenio.

Personally I think the comparison is a bit strained, considering that Mexico did not have nukes, was not a threat to other nations, and while certainly having risen had not surpassed the US economically. Still, the comparison is interesting. I'd be interested in getting any of your reactions.

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Old 11-03-2015, 07:48 AM
 
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The former Mexican ambassador to China compares the PRC today to Mexico in the 1980s and 1990s, when that country was similarly percieved as being on the rise, comparing the CCP to the PRI, Bo Xilai to Cuahtehmoc Cardenas, and China's current economic crisis to that of Mexico's at the end of Carlos Salinas' sexenio.

Personally I think the comparison is a bit strained, considering that Mexico did not have nukes, was not a threat to other nations, and while certainly having risen had not surpassed the US economically. Still, the comparison is interesting. I'd be interested in getting any of your reactions.
China has something that Mexico does not, and it is probably the single most important factor in a country's economic development; political stability. A stable government creates a stable society.
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Old 11-03-2015, 11:03 AM
 
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I kinda understand what he meant. Mexico's economy developed earlier than China. It has long been trading with the US and Europe since colonial era, while China was closed during the Mao era. Mexico borders the US and has strong historical relations with Europe especially Spain.

China is not actually in an economic crisis, unlike Russia, Europe and Japan, the economy is still growing, but at a slower rate.

Corruption is still widespread in Mexico nowadays, no better than in China.
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The former Mexican ambassador to China compares the PRC today to Mexico in the 1980s and 1990s, when that country was similarly percieved as being on the rise, comparing the CCP to the PRI, Bo Xilai to Cuahtehmoc Cardenas, and China's current economic crisis to that of Mexico's at the end of Carlos Salinas' sexenio.
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Old 11-03-2015, 11:14 AM
 
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The former Mexican ambassador to China compares the PRC today to Mexico in the 1980s and 1990s, when that country was similarly percieved as being on the rise, comparing the CCP to the PRI, Bo Xilai to Cuahtehmoc Cardenas, and China's current economic crisis to that of Mexico's at the end of Carlos Salinas' sexenio.

Personally I think the comparison is a bit strained, considering that Mexico did not have nukes, was not a threat to other nations, and while certainly having risen had not surpassed the US economically. Still, the comparison is interesting. I'd be interested in getting any of your reactions.
The PRI and CCP are very, very different, with a different system of patronage. Though it is modernizing here and there, Mexico is organized like most of Latin Americas, according to its colonial origins, highly centralized with a system of greasing palms and government/corporations acting as parents.

Mexico and old China may have been more similar.

China is China and will surprise you if Western notions are applied.

That said, Taiwan and Mexico have more in common in terms of their political evolution.

S.
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Old 11-03-2015, 11:27 AM
 
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Mexico is a federal republic of states similar to that of the US.
States have some powers.


PRC is a centralised republic of provinces and autonomous regions, similar to the Soviet Union, with basically the same law in the whole of China except HK and Macao, provinces have little or no power.
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Old 11-03-2015, 02:15 PM
 
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China is the "new" Mexico????? LOL, ROTFLOL!!!! Who came up with this comparison? Oh that's right, a Mexican, of course! LOL!
Mexico is a POS country next to China. If anything, Mexico desperately needs a Chinese style of government to get its society in order and stop the chaos.
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Old 11-03-2015, 05:54 PM
 
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Mexico didn't have the high growth rated China had, and will still have for the next decades

Chinese are also more entrepreneurial and have more capital to invest
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Old 11-03-2015, 06:57 PM
 
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China has something that Mexico does not, and it is probably the single most important factor in a country's economic development; political stability. A stable government creates a stable society.
Mexico had that stability up until everything fell apart right at the end of Salinas' term.

The article was comparing China today with Mexico in the Salinas era.

To be fair Mexico was never dangerous to the rest of the world like China is. The US-Mexico relationship certainly has some serious issues and is a difficult one, but compared to China's issues with most of its neighbors....
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:47 PM
 
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Mexico had that stability up until everything fell apart right at the end of Salinas' term.

The article was comparing China today with Mexico in the Salinas era.

To be fair Mexico was never dangerous to the rest of the world like China is. The US-Mexico relationship certainly has some serious issues and is a difficult one, but compared to China's issues with most of its neighbors....
China has great relations with South Korea (a US ally) though! It is to the point that the US newsmedia never mentions South Korea as an important ally when it comes to the South China Sea dispute.
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