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Here in Hong Kong, most Cantonese or Chinese foreign learners can speak, but very few of them can read and write Cantonese or Chinese. Same in many Overseas Chinese communities, with western born Chinese able to speak fluent Cantonese or Chinese, but unable to read and write.
I know it is not the same in other Asian regions. Most foreign learners can read the languages.
In Hong Kong again, most people are good at reading and writing English than speaking, because of the lack of chance to speak English reguarly.
Counters in Japanese can be frustrating, I want to pull my hair out when trying to remember them, and the special pronunciations for the numbers like 3日 (third day of the month, not 3 days) is みっか and not さんひ
Counters in Japanese can be frustrating, I want to pull my hair out when trying to remember them, and the special pronunciations for the numbers like 3日 (third day of the month, not 3 days) is みっか and not さんひ
I feel sympathy with you for those irregularities
BTW, if the 3 of 3日 was read as さん, then ひ would become ぴ
The Japanese writing system is a mess. As far as I know, it is the worst one in the world. Egyptian hieroglyphs come close.
Counters in Japanese can be frustrating, I want to pull my hair out when trying to remember them, and the special pronunciations for the numbers like 3日 (third day of the month, not 3 days) is みっか and not さんひ
I agree, learning the irregular pronunciations can be hard! As a matter of fact, English also has some irregularities like this, which we take for granted. A foreign learner has to remember that though 1 is "one" and 2 is "two," 1st is "first," 2nd is "second," 11 is "eleven" and 12 is "twelve."
But, you have me on the counters. Those counters are just awful, and you have to learn them all in Chinese, too, though without the irregularities.
BTW, if the 3 of 3日 was read as さん, then ひ would become ぴ
The Japanese writing system is a mess. As far as I know, it is the worst one in the world. Egyptian hieroglyphs come close.
くそ！Hmm my Japanese IME must not be so smart (Anthy for Linux), because さんぴ gives me 賛否 and さんひ gives me 三日.
You're so lucky you're a native speaker. I wonder how many JLPT N1 (equivalent to HSK 1/C1 if you didn't know) level Japanese speakers make mistakes with the counters. So far, that seems to be the hardest thing in Japanese at my level and there's separate counters for everything! I mean, a counter for flat objects like paper??? I love Japanese
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I agree, learning the irregular pronunciations can be hard! As a matter of fact, English also has some irregularities like this, which we take for granted. A foreign learner has to remember that though 1 is "one" and 2 is "two," 1st is "first," 2nd is "second," 11 is "eleven" and 12 is "twelve."
But, you have me on the counters. Those counters are just awful, and you have to learn them all in Chinese, too, though without the irregularities.
Yes I bookmarked a webpage that teaches you the pronunciations for the days of a month and there's plenty of irregular ones. As far as I know, numbers 1, 4, and 9 are usually irregular? Yanagisawa, what do you think?
You're so lucky you're a native speaker. I wonder how many JLPT N1 (equivalent to HSK 1/C1 if you didn't know) level Japanese speakers make mistakes with the counters. So far, that seems to be the hardest thing in Japanese at my level and there's separate counters for everything! I mean, a counter for flat objects like paper??? I love Japanese
Hahahaha... I love foreigners
Dishes, papers, medals are flat and thin. Obvious facts, aren't they?
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Yes I bookmarked a webpage that teaches you the pronunciations for the days of a month and there's plenty of irregular ones. As far as I know, numbers 1, 4, and 9 are usually irregular? Yanagisawa, what do you think?
Dishes, papers, medals are flat and thin. Obvious facts, aren't they?
Well, I DON'T think
Yeah you just know it you bastard That's how my gf feels about my Spanish haha. How can I do the R sound so easily and how I know how to conjugate verbs without thinking
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like 3日 (third day of the month, not 3 days) is みっか and not さんひ
