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Old 07-27-2018, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Tulsa
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Taiwan is actually more affluent than it appears.

The cost of living is low, social welfare and healthcare are pretty decent.
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Old 07-28-2018, 05:56 AM
 
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I'm a permanent resident of Taiwan and own an apartment in Taipei. Probably the main reason why Taiwan looks so shabby is because Taiwanese people spend big money on the interiors of their apartments but spend as little as possible on the exteriors because impressing people is low on their list of priorities. Another factor is the average college graduate in Taiwan makes USD2,000 per month if they're lucky but even a ramshackle apartment can cost USD1,000,000.
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Old 07-28-2018, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Another factor is the average college graduate in Taiwan makes USD2,000 per month if they're lucky but even a ramshackle apartment can cost USD1,000,000.
That is not a real factor.

Basically there's only one reason: people don't care. At least don't care enough. It's not really any of anyone else's business anyway. It's not like international tourism is a large sector here or that we've been falsely advertising as a country of pretty buildings. If you came here and were shocked by the shabby cities, you only have yourself to blame.
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Old 07-28-2018, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Arcadia, CA
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It has to do with education.

Although Taiwan is no longer an impoverished country, the driving force behind education is still money, so both parents and schools put a strong emphasis on subjects considered money makers while sidelining disciplines that are not. As a result students don't have sufficient exposure to soft sciences like art, which leads to a population with little to no aesthetic sense.
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Old 07-30-2018, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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It has to do with education.

Although Taiwan is no longer an impoverished country, the driving force behind education is still money, so both parents and schools put a strong emphasis on subjects considered money makers while sidelining disciplines that are not. As a result students don't have sufficient exposure to soft sciences like art, which leads to a population with little to no aesthetic sense.
Yeah ... because other countries' education puts such emphasis on subjects like art.
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Wappingers Falls, NY
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Bottom line is that in most of SE Asia, including the Pacific Islands, less attention is paid to the exterior of buildings than the interior. There's some real reasons for that, the biggest of which happens to be the Pacific Ocean. Salt eats anything, and if you've ever been to a seaside town or city you know it looks shabbier than an inland one, partially because all the salt in the air breaks things down faster. Heck, NYC looks crappy in areas because it's right on the ocean. And the "poor" in NYC would be "rich" in a lot of other places.
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Old 07-30-2018, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Bottom line is that in most of SE Asia, including the Pacific Islands, less attention is paid to the exterior of buildings than the interior. There's some real reasons for that, the biggest of which happens to be the Pacific Ocean. Salt eats anything, and if you've ever been to a seaside town or city you know it looks shabbier than an inland one, partially because all the salt in the air breaks things down faster. Heck, NYC looks crappy in areas because it's right on the ocean. And the "poor" in NYC would be "rich" in a lot of other places.
I agree that the climate is definitely amongst the top reasons, but Taiwan isn't really SE Asia. It's East Asia.
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Arcadia, CA
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Yeah ... because other countries' education puts such emphasis on subjects like art.
Which is why American entertainment industry is so prosperous and sells well in Taiwan. Many countries neighboring Taiwan like China, Japan, and South Korea are also known for their cultural products.
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Old 07-30-2018, 08:15 PM
 
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What kind of racist and complete garbage is this?
I don’t know any Chinese who’s less “clean” than any Japanese. Chinese people are not the ones who eat food raw like savages and were found to have 80% of its population infested with parasites.

And your ignorant racist ass might like to know that Singapore was literally built by Chinese and 80% of the population are Chinese diaspora. So the fact that after your racist ridiculous generalization you went on to praise Singapore for “being that clean” in the same line is a display of your ignorance.
Singapore was a complete **** hole even as late as the 60s. Like many in the region, Singapore was built on the foundations of British rule of law and management and Chinese (as well as Malays and Indians) hard work/labouring.

Today's Singaporean Chinese don't really identify themselves as Chinese, some can't even speak the language properly.

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Which is why American entertainment industry is so prosperous and sells well in Taiwan. Many countries neighboring Taiwan like China, Japan, and South Korea are also known for their cultural products.
Because soft power is so much more valuable and lucrative than manufacturing as they have learnt along with avionics/aircraft and military equipment.
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Old 07-31-2018, 12:31 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Which is why American entertainment industry is so prosperous and sells well in Taiwan. Many countries neighboring Taiwan like China, Japan, and South Korea are also known for their cultural products.
Cultural exports have nothing to do with artistic education at school. And Japan and Korea are both much bigger than Taiwan. No country of Taiwanís size has any significant cultural export. Itís just the way things are.

And China is known for about as little cultural products as Taiwan does. Itís pathetic for a country of that size.
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